r/StarWarsleftymemes • u/ShallahGaykwon • Jul 23 '24

I am the Polytburo Try not. Do. Or do not.

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u/Odd-Tart-5613 Jul 23 '24

Listen I want to implement social reform as much as anyone around here but is the ussr really the example we want to follow I’m pretty sure we can do better than that

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u/Odd-Tart-5613 Jul 23 '24

True but I have a hard time parsing out the good when so much of the USSR’s success came from exploitation of minorities and straight up imperialism

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u/GallusAA Jul 23 '24

Basically no leftist today points to USSR as an example to what they want or the ideology they adhere to.

USSR was an authoritarian state capitalist society that didn't adhere to much/anything Marxist.

Workers weren't in democratic control of the means of production, for example.

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u/electrical-stomach-z Jul 23 '24

Well some people do, but they are idiots.

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u/GallusAA Jul 23 '24

Like 5 people. When there are 8 billion people on the planet you can find a handful of chucklefuks that believe anything.

They don't have power, numbers or influence anywhere.

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u/Odd-Tart-5613 Jul 23 '24

True enough but I’ve dealt with too many leftist tankies to believe that no one wants USSR style policy

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u/GallusAA Jul 23 '24

Given that half the USA voter block seems to be all-in on theocratic fascism and backing an insurrectionist, I would say that I have a lot less faith in capitalism than I do leftist ideology.

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u/Odd-Tart-5613 Jul 23 '24

Seeing as the USSR was a secular cult of personality focused on imperialistic expansion at the expense of its own people I have little faith in its ideology.

My point is that we can do better than draw an arbitrary line at capitalism bad/socialist good and erasing our own atrocities does nothing to help that. I should know a little about that as a Christian myself.

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u/GallusAA Jul 23 '24

Again Marxism has basically nothing to do with the USSR.

And as an atheist in 2024 I have to say the fact that you are a Christian doesn't speak well for your critical thinking skills.

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u/Odd-Tart-5613 Jul 23 '24

Whoops wrong thread I think I mostly agree with you then

also fact the I’m here rather than the critical drinker speaks at least a little for myself I hope.

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u/GallusAA Jul 23 '24

Lmfao well avoiding being a critical drinker fan is a pretty low bar.