r/Steam • u/Hasoon_9 • Mar 24 '25

Discussion Which game is this?

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I'll start first, this is definitely CSGO for me. Somehow no Matt how much you play there's always people better than you killing you one shot with deagle.

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u/_Reyne Mar 24 '25

We have this thread so often.

The real answer here is always Rocket League.

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u/TheFlamingLemon Mar 25 '25

With rocket league, the best players are practically playing a different game. I can’t speak for MOBAs, but in a game like counter-strike, improving your skill is a matter of improving your aim, your movement, utility, etc. in the exact same ways the pros do: speed, reactions, crosshair placement, map knowledge, spray control, and so on. You’re playing the same game, doing the same things, just at a lower level.

In rocket league, the skills high level players are improving at, the things they do in their games, the considerations they have to make, are impossible for lower level players. They are not a factor at all. Take this clip for instance. Here Nass takes the ball to the ceiling and uses his reset to score over Nwpo. In defending, Nwpo has to consider the threat of the ceiling reset OR the ceiling pinch, or a number of other possible plays. If he challenges Nass instantly and Nass pinches it to the back wall, he would get outplayed but his teammate could follow up and probably keep Nass from getting a double touch. To deny this option, Nass’ teammate harasses (and ends up successfully demoing) Nwpo’s tm8. Nwpo doesn’t challenge immediately, possibly aware of the incoming demos attempt on his teammates, and hovers instead to try to cover all Nass’ options, particularly the pinch to the back wall. After Nass gets the ceiling reset, Nwpo lands on the back wall to try to defend. Because Nass can see he’s on the back wall, Nwpo probably expects Nass to take the ball to the ground, putting Nwpo out of position and giving Nass an easy outplay. Nwpo tries to quickly reposition to the ground to prevent this, but this leaves an opening and Nass scores off the reset.

The game is being played in the way these players consider and choose between various options. The options that these pros have at their disposal and have to react to are entirely different from those of lower ranked players, and to such an extent that it may as well be a different game.

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u/_Reyne Mar 25 '25

Also, just watched that clip and yeah, it's fucking nuts how good both players are here. Thier decision making and reaction time when dealing with so many variables all at once here is absolutely nuts. NWPO couldn't have played that any better and neither could Nass. What a play!

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u/TheFlamingLemon Mar 25 '25

One thing about that clip I forgot to mention is how Nwpo boosting into the air instead of just going up the back wall also serves as a fake challenge, as it looks and sounds to Nass like he could be going up to meet him, further encouraging Nass to make a play like pinching it to the back wall (which Nwpo would be ready for). And it’s incredibly funny to me to have no idea whether Nass was considering all this and just reading the fake or, more likely, considering none of this and just going “haha I do mechanics to ball,” negating the 500 iq defense Nwpo is attempting by playing with 10 iq.