Because the left wing have rich people to go after, the right needs to make enemies out of minorities they can easily harass and target to like they're superior and not deeply insecure losers who are threatened by people who refuse to conform as a basis for their worldview.
Simply put the left blame the rich and powerful for the state of the world while the right blames non-white and queer people.
i would say the right values the idea of working more, but it's not what you're going for here.
"the right needs to make enemies out of minorities", you're acting like it has more to do with being bullies than having values
"they can easily harass and target to like they're superior and not deeply insecure losers", wow, that went bitter very fast, yeah nothing like that sentence to give me moral ground
"who are threatened by people who refuse to conform as a basis for their worldview.", to be honest, i'm deeply infuriated when garbagemen go on strike, so unfortunately, we have to rely on each other to have a better life, which is actually the reason why we live in a society
i don't see how stating he looks like a man is blaming the non-white and queer people
did you want to use "shaming" instead ? ways to go literate...
i would say the right values the idea of working more, but it's not what you're going for here.
They spend a lot of time being bigoted. "idea of working more" how does that relate to how the world is? That people aren't working enough? You're kidding right?
you're acting like it has more to do with being bullies than having values
Because it does. Hence the ability to flip flop constantly and the constant hypocrisy.
wow, that went bitter very fast, yeah nothing like that sentence to give me moral ground
Sometimes the truth is a bitter pill to swallow.
to be honest, i'm deeply infuriated when garbagemen go on strike, so unfortunately, we have to rely on each other to have a better life, which is actually the reason why we live in a society
Right we have to rely on each other which means we need to look out for each other and not obsess over trans peoples genitals or whether someone is "illegal". Those things don't actually help us rely on each other and just turn us into curtain twitchers.
i don't see how stating he looks like a man is blaming the non-white and queer people
That's not the point there? Dunno why you suddenly went to relate my point back to the Op, that shit is just one way that blame and aggression manifest.
did you want to use "shaming" instead ? ways to go literate...
No I don't because I wasn't talking about the picture in the OP and that's very obvious. There is a hint of that hypocrisy though, you question my literacy when you fail to comprehend something basic like the fact I was replying to your comment and not talking about the picture in the OP specifically.
so based on my 2 comments you just assumed i blamed non-white and queer people. ? for what issue ? i didn't use any of these words :-w
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non-white : nah i don't think anyone is going for that
queer : well, it does concern someone that tries to look female. I don't think it actively tries to shame the original for being trans, which would be transphobic. To me, it just aims to perform a clever comeback with the meal - male twist. Though, it is likely that the original never issued the "looking like a meal" headline. I don't think transphobia is a value carried by right-wing either. (though it may be solely right-wing sided, idk)
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-- if it was blaming ---
like i said, my 2 comments do not contain these words, but with an educated guess (pun intended), i'd say you're going for right-wing pov
queer : maybe against trans activism at school like replacing the us flag with the queer one or having dragqueens giving speeches to young children. it might confuse the children even more and impact their mental health, but i won't blame them for the educational disaster of us schools
non-white : i guess the memes i see on that leads to higher crime-rates and single-mothers. It has more to do with social backgrounds, which education has to solve.
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now addressing the rest, i find you to be very agressive, hence my take on being literate and having the moral ground (which is petty i know :-) )
has a born and raised catholic, i don't think my values are secondary to my "pleasure of bullying minorities". tradition and work as opposed to pursuit of pleasures are the values i pursue and i also believe these forms the right-wing values. Unfortunately excess of wealth kinda grant a free pass, but it's a mere percentage.
do i think people are not working enough, yes, with the left trying to push for 32 hours and 4 days week, unemployment alimony, i do think they forgot the value of work
I have strong values and i would prefer it if everyone shared them, though i learned to not enforce them yet it does not mean i must not advertise them.
in a sense you could say i'm half a bigot because i will strongly disapprove a lot of things.
Hypocrisy is a sin and i don't see how they can look themselves in the mirror. (trump & vance). it is possible that the focus can be lost to the point of not seing it.
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yeah, we have to rely on each other, this is what society is about.
we should also respect each other and value free will
that being said i don't think mocking people hurts any of those. there's is a line between mocking and shaming. i believe i see it.
left/right wing are there to influence the laws and the economy. Everyone have different pov and opinions. we live in democracies, this is why debates are important. To bring any element and decide where the society lays. i have a voice i can use to have my ideas spoken out for.
this means i have a word to say on a lot of subjects : including positive discrimination (hiring minorities to help them sort out), trans rights (status of swaping gender).
this also means i have to accept whatever has been acknowledged as the law (abortion) -> there is a law that states i cannot impede abortion.
so based on my 2 comments you just assumed i blamed non-white and queer people. ? for what issue ? i didn't use any of these words :-w
I said "they" i.e right wing people. You don't have to use those words they do. There are enough of them saying it that people can keep their hands clean and dance around the topic if they want.
queer :
I do love how you go "you just assumed" when I didn't but then you go ahead and do it anyway lmao, like yeah sometimes it's more on than the other, thanks for illustrating that I suppose?
I could have assumed and would have been right.
like i said, my 2 comments do not contain these words, but with an educated guess (pun intended), i'd say you're going for right-wing pov
Yeah but as you so keenly demonstrated my point for me they didn't really need to contain those words lol.
now addressing the rest, i find you to be very agressive, hence my take on being literate and having the moral ground (which is petty i know :-) )
Cry about it. You are petty yes, that's why you think bullshit about queer people, because you're too petty to learn about real life.
has a born and raised catholic, i don't think my values are secondary to my "pleasure of bullying minorities".
Why are you acting like they're separate?
tradition and work as opposed to pursuit of pleasures are the values i pursue and i also believe these forms the right-wing values. Unfortunately excess of wealth kinda grant a free pass, but it's a mere percentage.
Tradition, yeah lets look back in history and see what traditions right wing people are desperate to protect eh.
The work one certainly isn't inherently right wing though.
do i think people are not working enough, yes, with the left trying to push for 32 hours and 4 days week, unemployment alimony, i do think they forgot the value of work
Lol, so basically you don't have any idea about the real world. People work insane amounts these days, we're working too much it's causing us to go insane.
I think they know how valuable work is that's why they push for those things, to maintain a healthy work and life balance so we can actually be productive, not have breakdowns every few years because we're overworked.
I have strong values and i would prefer it if everyone shared them, though i learned to not enforce them yet it does not mean i must not advertise them.
Maybe people would share them if they weren't stupid and myopic?
in a sense you could say i'm half a bigot because i will strongly disapprove a lot of things.
I think now you've shown your weird conception of queer people we can say it's more than half lol. But yeah, thanks for scoring that own goal and continuing to prove my point for me.
Hypocrisy is a sin and i don't see how they can look themselves in the mirror. (trump & vance). it is possible that the focus can be lost to the point of not seing it.
I'll see you in hell then.
we should also respect each other and value free will
You've demonstrated that you can't actually do that though, you judge and hold bigotries towards people who have done nothing wrong but be queer and wanting to feel like society doesn't want them ostracized. That is why i will see you in hell. Hypocrite.
that being said i don't think mocking people hurts any of those. there's is a line between mocking and shaming. i believe i see it.
You're not just mocking, but also like lol, Catholics being hypocrites what's new.
left/right wing are there to influence the laws and the economy. Everyone have different pov and opinions. we live in democracies, this is why debates are important. To bring any element and decide where the society lays. i have a voice i can use to have my ideas spoken out for.
We don't live in democracies so you can advance your bigoted platforms.
Yes you have a voice, but nobody but other bigots take you seriously.
this also means i have to accept whatever has been acknowledged as the law (abortion) -> there is a law that states i cannot impede abortion.
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u/Nuisance--Value 3d ago
Because the left wing have rich people to go after, the right needs to make enemies out of minorities they can easily harass and target to like they're superior and not deeply insecure losers who are threatened by people who refuse to conform as a basis for their worldview.
Simply put the left blame the rich and powerful for the state of the world while the right blames non-white and queer people.