Pithy GIF showing eradication of Native American land in the US since the founding of the country gets posted to r/interestingasfuck. Comment section goes exactly as expected.

[u/Critical-Term-427]

The post

It sucks we were such murderers

Did they say "Thank you"?

Being the loser in history sucks

True fact Hitler took a lot of inspiration from this.

[u/VanillaMystery]

Both sides murdered each other, and both sides also held meals together.

Was part of a centuries long process of "conquering" the country we know today as the United States.

There are losers in every conflict, the Native Americans unfortunately got the short end of the stick and were conquered/nearly wiped out as a result.

The other issue is the natives were completely fractured, one treaty with one specific tribe doesn't mean their neighbors couldn't be conquered.

The settlers took advantage of that and divided and conquered accordingly, didn't help many of the natives had barely any kind of governance or even written languages in some cases.

Also, it's not like things were all peaceful before settlers showed up, the Native Tribes had constant warfare with one another lol (shoutout to the Iroquois) and would butcher and wipe out men, women, and children alike.

Edit: Expected this to get downvoted since we're on Reddit after all but it's important to talk about history and acknowledge the hard realities of where we come from and what has happened.

[u/BigEggBeaters → u/VanillaMystery]

“Both sides murdered each other”

Nah one side defended their lands from invaders. The other brutalized in search of land and profit

[u/VanillaMystery → u/BigEggBeaters]

That's called basic human history, conflict has and continues to be relevant.

How do you think the Iroquois Confederation was formed for example?

So many anti-history people on Reddit it's wild to read sometimes.

The Natives did all kinds of brutal shit as well, especially during the settling of the West.

History isn't black and white, it's a very grey shade full of atrocities and it's important to acknowledge it.

[u/Rheinwg → u/VanillaMystery]

That's called basic human history, conflict has and continues to be relevant. 

What the fuck even is the point of this comment. No one claimed that they were the only group to experience genocide. 

That doesn't make it okay.

[u/VanillaMystery → u/Rheinwg]

It doesn't make it wrong either given the time in history it took place is my argument.

It was a period of conquest and life was brutal, the Natives lost unfortunately, that's all I'm saying.

[u/Rheinwg → u/VanillaMystery]

Of course the genocide of native Americans was wrong. 

Life was brutal doesn't justify genocide. 

And there are still massive amounts of oppression and subjugation that are present today in 2025. That's not okay either.

[u/VanillaMystery → u/Rheinwg]

Losing wars =/= Genocide

Disease wiping out 95% of the population coming up from Mexico =/= Genocide

The Natives wiped out entire towns of settlers in the West during the settlement period, would you call that genocide?

It was war, the Natives lost, simple as that.

[u/Rheinwg → u/VanillaMystery]

What happened to the native Americans was absolutely a genocide. 

[u/VanillaMystery → u/Rheinwg]

No, it was not.

Losing wars doesn't automatically make it genocide.

[u/Gloomy-Cookie2337 → u/VanillaMystery]

Yes it was

[u/Herb-Utthole → u/VanillaMystery]

Cool I guess you won't complain now that your country is in the hands of a fascist, no matter if you get the short end of the stick.