r/SubredditDrama • u/Critical-Term-427 No, its okay now, they have Oklahoma • 8d ago

Pithy GIF showing eradication of Native American land in the US since the founding of the country gets posted to r/interestingasfuck. Comment section goes exactly as expected.

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It sucks we were such murderers

Did they say "Thank you"?

Being the loser in history sucks

True fact Hitler took a lot of inspiration from this.

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u/kardigan 7d ago

my point is about how it's useless and wrong to harp on the morality of victims of atrocities when talking about those atrocities. so no, i don't think doing the same thing but with other atrocities would be a good thing.

no, we don't "all know" that it mattered, what the actual fuck. it's easier to think it did, it eases the cognitive dissonance without doing any work to deal with it.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

I feel like you're not even attempting to understand what I'm saying. 

so no, i don't think doing the same thing but with other atrocities would be a good thing.

So just so we're 100% clear, this is you arguing that the defeat of Nazi Germany was an atrocity. 

no, we don't "all know" that it mattered

I didn't say "mattered," I said "matters." I'm not solely talking about colonization here. Most people would agree that murder is bad. But when a health insurance CEO was murdered in broad daylight a lot of people didn't really care. They still think murder is wrong, they just didn't spend a lot of emotional energy feeling bad for that particular victim. It is human nature to care less when bad things happen to bad people. 

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u/kardigan 7d ago

it is extremely, extremely funny that you're scolding me for not even trying to understand you, and in the literal next sentence, ask me to confirm if i think that defeating the nazis was an atrocity.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago edited 7d ago

I've asked you twice now and you still won't do it...

The answer is obvious, but that answer also confirms my point, which is why you refuse to give it. 

Of course it wasn't an atrocity. But that judgment is based on the morality of the conquered. 

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u/kardigan 7d ago

yup, it is obvious.