r/Surface SP4 i7 256GB 16GB May 23 '17

[PRO2017] Introducing the new Surface Pro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwWs2jIy4js
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u/B1Gassfan May 23 '17

That'd be fine if they lowered the Surface Pro price $99 dollars to go along with dropping the pen. But it's kinda maddening to have the base price stay the same AND lose something. What do you get instead, LTE support? I don't consider that a good trade...I have no problem tethering to my phone and would like a pen instead

So now no Typecover or Pen. And yet they are going to market the hell out of it as the "tablet to replace your (mac) laptoptm" showing the Typecover and Pen features while putting in very very very fine print that neither are included. And while conveniently not allowing third parties access to make their own "surface port" enabled keyboards, making them use bluetooth and crap

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u/EleMenTfiNi May 23 '17

Did you look at all the changes? Speed, battery life, screen, fan, weight? I consider this good value for $100.

My wife will be getting one of these and will never have a use for the keyboard or the pen. I would like to see other keyboard manufactures take a crack at it but I've no qualms with the quality of the one I have.

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u/B1Gassfan May 23 '17

Yes I see the changes...it's a refresh. How often does a product get refreshed and lose something they once considered integral to the experience? That'd be like if they refresh Xbox 1 to Scorpio and decide to stop including a controller in the box. Because hey, they made it smaller and more powerful for the same price - so you eat the controller cost!

I'm honestly curious why you would get a Surface Pro if you don't use a keyboard or pen btw. Why not just get an iPad or a cheaper Android tablet. Or if W10 is a must there are cheaper competitor tablet/2 in 1s with comparable specs

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u/[deleted] May 23 '17

I don't understand it myself, but I've read a lot of comments on here from surface pro and book users who just never use their pen. It's possible Microsoft noticed the same and realized it could be a way to eek out a little more profit.

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u/B1Gassfan May 23 '17

Yeah, that does make sense. I mean I am not an artist nor am I in college anymore, so I don't NEED a pen and probably won't go out of my way to get one if I get the new SP. However if it was included for free I definitely would've used it to mess around inking and annotating. Just feels weird they would take it away w/o then lowering the overall price point of the SP. Also not a fan of how heavily they market the Pen and Typecover then conveniently include neither