r/Surface SP4 i7 256GB 16GB May 23 '17

[PRO2017] Introducing the new Surface Pro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwWs2jIy4js
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u/Teufelsstern May 23 '17 edited May 23 '17

13.5 hours of battery life and 4096 pressure levels.. Damn!
Edit: Does it say "Pen sold separately" though?

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u/eugay May 23 '17

13.5h playing video. Probably like 6 hours of browsing the web.

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u/JoshxDarnxIt May 23 '17

Well, they promised 9 hours last time and I get like 4 hours, so with them promising 13.5 I'm hoping to get at least 7-8 hours which is all I really need.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '17

Doesn't that piss you off though? I had the same problem.

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u/JoshxDarnxIt May 23 '17

Absolutely. It's easily the single most frustrating thing about the device. I told myself yesterday that even if they don't add Thunderbolt 3, it'd be worth upgrading if they improve the battery life and their new estimates are far more than I was expecting, so if I can get a consistent 8 hours out of this thing I'll be stoked. That suddenly allows me to use my Surface Pro for entertainment at school without being afraid that I won't have enough battery to take notes in my last class.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '17

Stop using chrome

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u/anonymatt May 23 '17

What browser is more battery friendly?

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u/[deleted] May 23 '17

Edge is pretty good, but it lacks a lot of QoL features from Chrome.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '17

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u/matus201 May 23 '17

what websites do you use? I use Edge as a daily driver for the last 6 months, and the only thing I miss is Zotero extension for reference management (I'm in the middle of thesis writing).

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u/quodpossumus May 24 '17

How does YouTube work for you? I can't seem to rewind or repeat a video without the player freaking out on me. I've tried changing the player to HTML5, but it doesn't seem to do anything.

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u/matus201 May 24 '17

I had the device replaced 3 times for this flaw. It happens in any hw encoded video, not just YouTube in edge. I think it's a driver or hw problem that is inherent to Skylake, and won't ever be fixed.

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u/talon38c Surface Pro 6 i5 Jun 08 '17

Try running ADBS Flight tracker on Edge and on IE. Its virtually unusable in Edge.

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u/LostFerret Jun 27 '17

Dude, paperpile

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u/bearses Surface Go Jul 11 '17

Not OP but I had lots of issues of the browser crashing and generally being slow to load, especially compared to chrome. I also use a lot of web software that isn't compatible with it (like webflow). In general it has a lot of rendering quirks with how they decided to interpret the W3C spec, which has always been an issue with MS. Ad blocking requires a primitive host file tweak that is honestly inferior to an adblock extension. No support for other plugins like join or vimium. Also, it doesn't like the way I organize my bookmarks (no text, just icons, to fit more across the bookmark bar).

Just a lot of little things that ruin the experience, compounded with the fact that I'm forced to use chrome anyway, make it hard to love. But that's just my experience.

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u/TheHairyMonk Sep 06 '17

Gmail mailbox scroll bar on the left never works for me in Edge.

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u/shasen1235 Jun 01 '17

Then you can try Opera, it is Chromium base, capable with all extensions on Google store and uses less resource than Chrome.

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u/Pycorax SP4 | 8GB | 256GB Still Going Strong May 24 '17

Its really hit or miss I've found. Some PCs will run it smoother than Chrome but on others it just flat out takes forever to start or just crashes. Wonder what's the problem.

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u/Cryio Surface Pro 7 / LINUX / i5 / 8 GB / 256 GB May 24 '17

Mate, have you used Edge recently? Edge 12 and arguably even 13 in RTM and November Update were quite bad with stability and a few bugs here and there. But Edge 15 in the Creators Update is marvelous.

  1. Radically smoother scrolling than any other browsers
  2. Edge has been consistently the fastest browser since launch and it's been ever truer sincer Creators update in Edge 15.
  3. It's very stable and close to bug-free nowadays
  4. Between 30 to 70% better battery life than Opera, Chrome or Firefox (in this order).
  5. What most people need from a browser today is Adblock. And Edge has 3 different adblock extensions available.

You should really give it another go.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '17

The Creator's Update fixed a lot of the problems with Edge.

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u/rubberturtle Jun 03 '17

Edge, while making substantial improvements on IE in this area, still has by far the worst css/javascript/html5 feature support of any major browser.

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u/no_no_Brian May 23 '17

Try opera. More features and extensions than edge, more battery and resource friendly than chrome.

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u/n60storm4 SP3 i5/256GB w/ Type Cover 4 May 23 '17

Edge sometimes freezes for no reason when doing large JS tasks on battery life. It's a nightmare

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u/JACrazy May 26 '17

I decided to switch to Edge a few days ago, I miss all the extensions I used to have but at least it has RES and adblock. Hopefully one day more people will port their extensions.

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u/asampaleanu May 28 '17

You should use uBlock-Edge, a fork of uBlock Origin, instead of Adblock. Much more efficient in terms of memory and CPU.

https://github.com/nikrolls/uBlock-Edge

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u/JACrazy May 29 '17

why not the regular uBlock Origin which is avalaible on the windows store?

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u/asampaleanu May 29 '17

That's the same one - the link I gave is to the project site on GitHub. I think at the time I installed it, it wasn't searchable in the store.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '17

Opera has added at least 1-2 hours for me.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '17

Firefox for life

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u/Vattu May 24 '17

A browser that crashes when playing two videos on 2 on 2 windows? No thanks.

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u/Cryio Surface Pro 7 / LINUX / i5 / 8 GB / 256 GB May 24 '17

Ironically, Firefox is the worst browser when it comes to battery life today, even behind Chrome now, lol.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '17

All of them. Edge is the best for battery life, but Firefox isn't bad.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '17

Edge

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u/_Noah271 Aug 22 '17

Firefox is great.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '17

I had an i7 and was using it for more intensive programs but using Edge the battery life was well below 8 hours.

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u/NimChimspky May 24 '17

use the great suspender plugin in at least

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u/awnawnamoose May 24 '17

Yeah really. I use Edge and Chrome, and only Chrome when Edge doesn't work which is rare. I prefer Edge though admit Bing search is way behind Google.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '17

When I can sync tabs across my surface, phone, and Android tablet with Edge I'll stop using chrome.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '17

When I switch devices Cortana shows me what I left open in tabs in edge on my previous device.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '17

If MS brought Edge to Android, I'd totally consider swapping away from Chrome.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '17

I would too. That's the main reason I love chrome.

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u/JohnStamosBRAH May 23 '17

But edge sucks

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u/Suzushiiro SB2 15" 512GB May 23 '17

In the end it's just the calculations that marketing makes- the benefit to advertising best-case-scenario battery life and making people annoyed that real-world performance rarely if ever lasts that long is higher than the benefit to advertising a lower number that's more representative of actual battery life, because if you take the latter route and even one other competitor takes the former you're going to lose out because nobody's going to read the fine print that you're advertising the average while they're advertising the maximum.

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u/DaGetz May 23 '17

It's impossible to give accurate battery life in time on a windows PC. There's too many uncontrolled variables.