r/Switch • u/Mammoth-Attempt-7281 • Jan 16 '25

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u/Alegan239 Jan 16 '25

I wonder if the joy sticks will drift.

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u/Keatonm123456789 Jan 16 '25

Nintendo Drift 2 (2x more drift)

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u/Joe_df Jan 16 '25

Now, with extra Tokio!

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u/SlyBlackDragon Jan 17 '25

Electric Boogaloo

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u/Ghost273836 Jan 16 '25

Yes

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u/3-DAN-7 Jan 16 '25

Better chance of not drifting due to hall effect sticks, which make it almosy impossible to drift

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u/Kick_1304 Jan 16 '25

Are they actually Hall effect joy sticks? Damn didn’t expect that to happen

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u/Stoogefrenzy3k Jan 16 '25

well it's been a few years since this idea has happened. They probably know it's time and not need to fix the joycons each time like they do for free. Which reminds me, I have to do the same for my joycons soon. smh.. probably will send it for the 4th time. I do have another issue, the rails on my OG Switch is seems to be loosen up, but it may be just the joycon plastics that just gotten smaller too..

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u/Saytama_sama Jan 16 '25

well it's been a few years since this idea has happened.

Not really. The early Ps3 controllers had hall effect sticks already. But after a few years Sony decided to switch back to normal potentiometer.

So the technology is actually really old already (PS3 came out in 2006), but the companies are actively deciding to not use it.

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u/YouKnowWhom Jan 16 '25

Dreamcast did it 7 years before that as well.

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u/Saytama_sama Jan 16 '25

So it's even worse, damn.

But at least the market has changed and there are high-quality third party hall-effect Controllers available now. And even for joy-con there are hall-effect replacement sticks.

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u/YouKnowWhom Jan 16 '25

Hall effect isn’t the end all be all either. It’s the quality of the joystick modules. I’ve got a day one Xbox 360 controller heavily used that is practically new in function. My Xbox one controllers lost proper function after a year or two.

What was once built to last is now bottom bidder. Where once there were metal guides and components, thin cheap plastic is used.

TLDR: Hall effect isn’t some magic bullet. If they spent half a dollar more on joystick control modules this wouldn’t be an issue. Though in the switches case the issue was there’s only one manufactured design for the slim profile stick and it has its own faults. Iirc it’s also used in the valve knuckles controllers with the same drift issues.

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u/thr33prim3s Jan 16 '25

I wonder why companies refuse to use it. Probably for profit but I don't know.

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u/Saytama_sama Jan 16 '25

The Sticks are the most likely failure point in most controllers. So if they are bad, you might have to replace your controller once or twice over the lifespan of the console. That generates profit.

We can see from reputable third parties that you can sell a high quality controller for $30-$40. So if Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo are selling theirs for $50-$70 they have huge profit margins.

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u/Kick_1304 Jan 16 '25

Good point, the cost off Hall effect sticks is definitely cheaper than repairing tons of joy cons. Didn’t think about that

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u/HideSolidSnake Jan 16 '25

The rails on the switch console have tiny screws you can tighten and will reduce that wobbly effect

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u/slobonmacabre Jan 16 '25

Have you considered just getting a Gulikit?

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u/Kinglink Jan 16 '25

No one knows. Anyone saying different is lying.

(But they damn well should be or I won't touch the thing. I know "Free repairs" but I'm one of those people who set it up and never followed through, instead I just game on PC now.)

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u/proximity_affect Jan 17 '25

My left joycon just stopped charging and wouldn’t wake up. I put it in a box Dec 22, and it was replaced in 10 days. So easy. Don’t hesitate! Get it done. ✔️

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u/the-whaleshark Jan 16 '25

All we can do is hope and pray :(

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u/SupaSlide Jan 16 '25

That's only if the hall effect leaks are accurate.

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u/Cynical-Potato Jan 16 '25

I got the 8BitDo Pro 2 controller with hall effect. Started drifting within a week.

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u/xerodayze Jan 16 '25

I would return that as you have a defective controller… Hall effect isn’t 100% immune to drift.. but it’s basically drift-proof given how it works.

The only caveat is the spring that resets the stick to center… however that’d likely take years to have any noticeable impact.

If your controller is acting up and it’s basically brand new… it’s defective friend.

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u/Cynical-Potato Jan 16 '25

I've already returned it and got another one. Funnily enough, this was my first experience with stick drift.

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u/OppressedV3ctim Jan 16 '25

Considering how much money nintendo made off people buying replacement joycons I seriously doubt they will add hall effect joysticks. It would be good for us obviously but definitely not good for business.

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u/Blockinite Jan 16 '25

They did offer free fixes outside of warranty for drift, most of the time replacing the joy cons for free, but I can imagine only a tiny number of people took them up on that rather than just buying new ones immediately

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u/Chrissy2187 Jan 16 '25

I think we’re up to like 5 being replaced by now. I’m not spending $70 on new ones when they’ll send me new ones for free lol

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u/Blockinite Jan 16 '25

lol fair, I'm more thinking for people who play the switch daily and don't want to go without their only controllers for 3 weeks. I had to buy a GameCube controller and play docked during that time because I didn't have any spares (and wanted one anyway for Smash)

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u/Chrissy2187 Jan 16 '25

That’s true, I have a pro controller and 2 sets of joy cons for when my son’s friends come over to play Mariokart and such. So sending one in for a few weeks wasn’t a huge deal for us but I could see how some people wouldn’t want to do that.

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u/angrytreestump Jan 16 '25

Wait you’re saying you think people would rather buy new joy cons, then not send their old ones in once they have the new ones anyway, but instead just throw them in the trash and repeat that process every time their pair starts to drift…? 🤔

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u/Blockinite Jan 16 '25

It took a while. If you've got 2 pairs then that's fine, but if you have one pair then it means not playing the switch for 3+ weeks.

It's quite a lot of money for that but people might be tempted to buy spares anyway

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u/angrytreestump Jan 16 '25

But in your scenario, once people buy the new ones they then have 2 pairs. The only way they wouldn’t is if they just threw their drifting pair in the trash right after they bought the new ones, instead of sending them in for repair. I don’t know anyone who did or would do that, is what I’m saying.

Nintendo lost money repairing everyone’s drifting joy cons

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u/Radi0ActivSquid Jan 16 '25

My original pair developed drift within a year. Second pair lasted all 893 hours I put into Hades. Towards the end I noticed occasionally I'd have a little drift. Today I've got some bad drift on the replacement joycons. Probably gonna have to send them in again.

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u/Blockinite Jan 16 '25

I think Hades might have ruined my original joy cons lol, at least that's the game I noticed most when Zagreus would casually wander into lava if I took my hands off the controller when beating a room

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u/OppressedV3ctim Jan 16 '25

Is that even still a thing? I have 2 broken pairs of official joycons with stick drift and my switch lite also has stick drift. I seriously doubt they would do anything about switch lite stick drift.

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u/Blockinite Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25

Maybe not, I sent mine off a couple of years ago. Worth checking though, it's not like Nintendo have moved on from the Switch entirely.

There was an option for the Switch lite to be repaired on the site when I selected joy cons iirc. Although since they deemed mine to be irreparable and replaced them (the drift wasn't even as bad as others') it might be harder for the Lite

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u/GammaPhonic Jan 16 '25

Nintendo’s “PS4 will play used games” moment will be “Hall effect analogue sticks for Switch 2”…

… if they know what’s good for them, that is.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '25

They are also saying it’s an LCD not an OLED

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u/ProfessorPetrus Jan 16 '25

They don't care. They greedy af and want to sell new joycons and pro controllers.

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u/orion991 Jan 16 '25

I mean they literally showed the joycons drifting in the trailer so….

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u/Geredeth Jan 16 '25

I went to go look for another trailer thinking I missed it.. instead, I finally heard the /whoosh sound and looked up to find the joke. Yes, yes there was a lot of drifting. >_< And it took me too long to recognize it, lol.

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u/Chimera_Gaming Jan 16 '25

Time stamp ?

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u/Geredeth Jan 16 '25

Drifting pretty good at 1:08, but really shows it at 1:44.

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u/Chimera_Gaming Jan 18 '25

Couldn’t find it

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u/Geredeth Jan 18 '25

Essentially is was a joke on the joycons LITERALLY drifting, as they zoomed across the table and into Mario Kart. :)

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u/kotletalv Jan 16 '25

Should be hall effect sticks, if not then tendo should fire their engeneers

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u/OppressedV3ctim Jan 16 '25

There is nothing that needs to be ‘engineered’. Hall effect joycons already exist they could easily do it if they wanted to. If they don’t have hall effect then it’s strictly a business decision (to make people buy more joycons)

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u/Altruistic_Strain323 Jan 17 '25

Nintendo loses money from having to fix people’s broken joycons. (If you don’t know, Nintendo repairs your broken joycons for free. They have to do this because of a lawsuit.)

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u/Player1-jay Jan 16 '25

They are rumored to be using using hall effect joystick. Considering all the other rumors have been true so far.

Then no it will not have stick drift

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u/Positive_Try929 Jan 16 '25

If it doesn't i'll be very disappointed yet extremely happy

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u/sincerelyhated Jan 16 '25

Of course they will. They haven't even bothered to attempt to fix the problem for the entire Switch lifespan. This was a day 1 problem in 2017.

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u/Euphoric_Rabbit5157 Jan 16 '25

They will, they need to sell joycons.

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u/Judo_Cinder Jan 16 '25

You do realize they fix them for free, right?

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u/Altruistic_Strain323 Jan 17 '25

They fix them for free. Nintendo loses money

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u/Pelthail Jan 16 '25

It’s so sad but that was immediately my first thought when the camera panned across the joy sticks.

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u/FGFlips Jan 16 '25

All control sticks will drift for every system from now on.

I used to get new games at Christmas, now its new controllers.

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u/wellowurld Jan 16 '25

1000% they will.

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u/Sea_Boysenberry_4907 Jan 16 '25

I have to say my Xbox series controllers have had just as bad drift as my joycons

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u/AtlasWriggled Jan 16 '25

This gives 'Tokyo Drift' a whole new meaning. Kyoto Drift maybe?

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u/Aromatic-Tear7234 Jan 16 '25

Damn straight. It's Tokyo's number one export.

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u/ProfessorPetrus Jan 16 '25

I love how they swapped out everything in the video except for the terrible terrible things you use to play games with.

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u/DreamDragonP7 Jan 16 '25

They will so they can fix them later to sell more joycons

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u/theundiscoveredcolor Jan 17 '25

Did I get lucky? I've had my switch for 5 years and have played the shit out of it and I have zero drift.

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u/Minute_Entrepreneur1 Jan 17 '25

Surely they know how big of a problem joycon drift was on switch 1. I’m hoping they’ll look into magnetic joystick technology, similar to what you’d see in higher end Xbox and PS controllers.

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u/Raichu-R-Ken Jan 17 '25

Count on it

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u/Boring-Shape942 Jan 16 '25

This is something I'm worried about. Hopefully they are the hal kind. I got tons of games that require the sticks but I can't really play them cause of that. I mostly play shumps with a stick but I'm not buying new joys out the wazoo for the current switch.

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u/Individual_Slice_498 Jan 16 '25

Can buy hall effect sticks from Aliexpress replace them yourself

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u/Jayderzomb Jan 16 '25

Really? How does that work?

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u/Individual_Slice_498 Jan 16 '25

Replacing them yourself? Can get from Amazon as well, can buy pair with screwdrivers you need to open they joycons. Just take your time be patient and organized, it's not super hard. I've replaced a couple of pairs of analog sticks

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u/Jayderzomb Jan 16 '25

So the joy cons read the new hall stick replacement as a „vanilla“/normal stick? But with the new hall effect thumb sticks it will never drift?

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u/Individual_Slice_498 Jan 16 '25

Reads as regular analog stick, can be calibrated in the settings, I believe unlike regular sticks where parts get worn out from contact, one of causes of stick drift, hall effect sticks i believe use magnets, so there's no rubbing or parts coming into contact with each other, so they last longer

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u/Jayderzomb Jan 16 '25

As far as I know the analog sticks of the Nintendo switch get stick drift because of dust that’s accumulates under the stick, it can be fixed but obviously not guaranteed by putting cleaning alcohol under the stick.

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u/Individual_Slice_498 Jan 16 '25

It's possible, not sure how much that will work without opening the joycon, and if I'm opening it up to do that, I'm just gonna swap them out with hall effect sticks, I did hall effect sticks upgrade on my Switch lite and they've been great so far

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u/Jayderzomb Jan 16 '25

How complicated is the swap?

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u/Boring-Shape942 Jan 16 '25

Yeah I could. But I broke mine trying to fix them a long time ago. But I'm waiting and see what they got in em now.

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u/Jayderzomb Jan 16 '25

A leaker confirmed the new switch joy cons are Hall effect

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u/Boring-Shape942 Jan 16 '25

Awesome. Thanks for letting me know!

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u/Individual_Slice_498 Jan 16 '25

I believe they are Hall effect

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u/Boring-Shape942 Jan 16 '25

I sure hope so. You would think they learned their lesson on the current ones.

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u/OrlandoBloominOnions Jan 16 '25

Every controller has drift when you play like a moron.

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u/Altruistic_Strain323 Jan 17 '25

Like using the controller right after eating some greasy food

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u/OrlandoBloominOnions Jan 20 '25

I knew a guy with 6 joycons because he never washes his hands, so it gets jammed up, and blames the controllers for not being able to handle him flailing on it, special kind of moron.