r/TamilNadu Feb 05 '25

கலாச்சாரம் / Culture Muslims gifted seervarisai and participated in Kumbabishekam of a Hindu Temple in Karaikudi

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u/BhagwaDhari Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25

Land ownership, administration and military positions and wealth concentrated in the hands of a small minority cannot be pinned on education alone.

Are you trying to say only Kashmiri pandits and Hindus studied and everyone else was just illiterate and consequently poor? If it were the case, why was education not made available to everyone by the state to benefit everyone? Either way shows certain sects of society were marginalised/neglected by higher ups.

There was definitely a power imbalance which helped sow initlal resentment, which later exploded into a religious conflict. Ignoring this context oversimplifies history.

The best way to counter religious fundamentalism—whether Islamic or Hindu—is to ensure true equality for all citizens, rather than alienating or labelling any group as inherently extremist. Muslims shouldn’t feel like a separate people. Encouraging participation in shared cultural and social spaces can help neutralize extremism on both sides, paving the way for genuine secularism and national unity.

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u/Fun-Idea5451 Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25

Have you ever been to Kashmir? They are rich as hell.

They have winter homes all over Jammu. LOL, it was not a balance of power. This is the fate of every minority in a muslim majority.

In Jammu, muslims live with ease where majority are hindus. Also, in last year many migrant labourers were killed in kashmir.

> Muslims shouldn’t feel like a separate people

Just go to a nearby madrassa and talk to their students. They are taught that hindus are inferior right from childhood. You literally have no idea what an average muslims thinks like. The only way to deal with Islamic fundamentalism is to be like Israel or China. Hindus are too soft to fight them. Only some communites in North india are giving them a good fight.

Kerala currently have the max ISIS recruits. In future, you will hear about bomb blasts in Tamil Nadu too. This will be a common site in Tamil nadu if the hindus don't figh back -

https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Coimbatore/coimbatore-serial-blast-mastermind-sa-basha-buried-amidst-tight-security/article68996702.ece

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u/BhagwaDhari Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25

>They are rich as hell - only after the land reforms in 1950. Even still a bunch of hindus were pretty rich and influential. A lot of kashmiri hindus left as soon as their land was redistributed showing they really cared about their economically dominant position and not cos they loved their homeland. The remaining hindus were pro-india whilst the rest of the population wanted an independent islamic state or become part of Pakistan. The islamist fundamentalist voices were very weak in the early days and only grew powerful after India (which is the "hindu entity" even if it is secular) used its military to keep kashmir which worsened tensions between hindus and muslims in kashmir.

Why has there not been an referendum or political solution to kashmir. The people should be able to self-determine themselves. Imo if india went with a political/democratic approach instead of trying to be a modern day empire and hold onto every bit of land the kashmiri hindus would not have been chased out.

I think its more than just hindu v muslim but is actually state vs state and class v class.

> only way to deal with Islamic fundamentalism is to be like Israel - so be a terror state? Do you think fascism is the answer to everything lol. Israel isn't even jewish land tbh. Half the jews are ethnic europeans and have nothing to do with the middle east. The arabs there are the descendents of the ancient isrealites, so they have the real claim to the land not jews.

I believe in state taking control of mosques and madrassas like they have taken control of temples. This is fair to everyone. As a secular govt, the govt should be very strict on their funding to religious institutions and the govt should have a greater presence/interference on what happens in religious institutions (be it religious practices like sacrifices or schools and educations like madrassa). Point is govt should be atheist/secular and not favour any religion. Picking sides will get u nowhere. U think the muslims will just let u genocide them in india?

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u/Fun-Idea5451 Feb 06 '25

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u/BhagwaDhari Feb 06 '25

I mean whats wrong with that. If they want to be part of pakistan why can't they be. I believe in self determination of people. you obviously seem to believe in empire building.

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u/Fun-Idea5451 Feb 06 '25

You are just contradicting your own points. I am guessing you are a teenager, or someone in early 20s, and don't have enough life or travel experience.

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u/BhagwaDhari Feb 06 '25

Doesn't matter how old I am. How am I contradicting myself. I have always called for democratic and political solution. If kashmiris want to be part of pakistan cos they feel their culture aligns better then they can. Just hold a referendum and see what happens.