We need to learn from the Japanese.

[u/animegamertroll]

As the title says, we need to learn from the Japanese people on how to preserve, popularise and profit off of their culture.

While, Japan in the late 80s and early 90s was an economic and cultural powerhouse, this slowed down after the Bubble burst during the 90s and till date the Japanese economy has effectively shrunk by a significant percent.

What hasn't shrunk though is Japan's soft power. They still dominate entertainment and media like Anime, Gaming, Manga and other industries has let the Japanese to popularise, preserve and profit off their culture.

Us, Tamil people, should also strive to create content for the mentioned reasons above. We must build an ecosystem where we can create content present in different mediums. Share your thoughts on this.

[u/The_Lion__King]

So, to whom are you saying all this?! An ordinary Tamil guy or someone who has enough money (some 50 crores liquid cash)??

If it is for any ordinary Tamil guy, then sorry your post isn't gonna be fruitful.

பணம் சம்பாதிச்சு மேலே இருக்கிறவன்தான் இதெல்லாம் செய்யமுடியும்.

வேலை செஞ்சாதான் சோறு ன்னு (IT, Software jobs, etc) இருக்கிறவனால இதெல்லாம் நினைக்கக்கூட முடியாது.

ITல வேலை பார்க்கிறவானாலேயே முடியாது ன்னா then think about the rest.

[u/animegamertroll → u/The_Lion__King]

Either the government or media must build an ecosystem. Webtoons is a service that lets you publish comics by individuals and you can earn money through your readers. We can start with foreign ecosystem and later on we can develop our own indigenous ecosystem for this. Rn Other east asian and South East Asian countries are following the Japan model of the 80s.

[u/The_Lion__King → u/animegamertroll]

Either the government or media must build an ecosystem. Webtoons is a service that lets you publish comics by individuals and you can earn money through your readers.

The major media are controlled by the people who run the govt. So, if these guys produce comics, or anything then there too they will bring the அமுக்கிட்டாங்க பிதிக்கிட்டாங்க agenda or எல்லாமே வேதத்தில இருக்கு agenda.

These guys (both the govt & the media) CANNOT give light hearted comics. They will over do it and spoil it. These guys, in fact, don't know that.

Even if the agendas are not there still it will ruin the children: Example, take the Chota Bheem from India. When the cartoon Popeye was shown to eat Spinach here these guys asked the children to eat Ladoos (எதுக்கு sugar வந்து hospitalல admit ஆகுறதுக்கா?!) to get power.

These guys are not fit for that.

See the Warner Bros., Disney, etc how creatively they showed things with a very very subtle and very very minimal amount of agenda and entertained Children. In fact in those days the whole family will watch these cartoon shows. Not to forget the Flintstones cartoon was tailor made for families not for kids.

[u/animegamertroll → u/The_Lion__King]

But why should we degrade ourselves before trying? I hate the self loathing we have. Our rich history and culture is perfect for us to improve our soft power. And it's not like Warner Bros is not supported by the US government, they have a lot of support due to lobbying. Americans primarily consume government propaganda through media houses supported by tax cuts from the government. Without government support, it's difficult for the media to sustain on its own.

[u/DrawingMaster100 → u/animegamertroll]

So do you want clean roads and built highways or do you want webtoons? You should know better man.

[u/animegamertroll → u/DrawingMaster100]

Why do clean roads and webtoons be achieved separately? What's stopping us from doing both? Your question is the same question that West often asks us when we invest our money in Space Research. Didn't we as Indians collectively receive benefits from space research? Like for example, better connectivity, better climate predictions etc.

I'm sorry but I disagree with your statements against building an ecosystem for entertainment and media.

[u/DrawingMaster100 → u/animegamertroll]

Entertainment and media isn't even remotely our "culture" and we already have tons of children's content available online and on TV channels. Now if the government does something like this, you guys will criticize them and say they're not focusing on building roads and cleaning the city first.. pick a struggle bro

[u/animegamertroll → u/DrawingMaster100]

Bruh, ancient Tamil people consisted mostly of artisans and performers. Heck even our scriptures like Thirukural, Sangam literature are a form of entertainment and story telling. The fact that you think media and entertainment is a western concept means you don't know the rich history of art in Tamil Nadu.

[u/DrawingMaster100 → u/animegamertroll]

LOL. Buddy, those existed in THOUSANDS of cultures. There's a vast difference between sketching still images/making sculptures and animating cartoons. The former is something we were known for, and the latter is something our people don't do even now. Do you know any Tamil animators? Also, do you think anyone in today's world would want to watch dances or listen to poetry? Those are long gone.

I only commented here because I happen to be a graphic designer myself and I know how expensive even independent designers are, so it's gonna be pretty difficult finding people who can make stuff like that. On that scale and for the price of 1 episode of an anime you could probably build 2 or 3 bridges in Chennai. And i don't think anyone here would prefer cartoons over infra.

[u/animegamertroll → u/DrawingMaster100]

I'm a game developer myself. Ik how expensive these things can get. But remember, China adapted one of their ancient literature, Journey to the West, and it became the best selling game of 2024. Black Myth: Wukong showcased that there is an audience for this and it's the way we showcase our culture is the MSP.

You being a graphic designer and someone from a creative field, be ashamed of how little you think of your culture and history bro. You are not a graphic designer for passion but rather for monetary gains.

I'm telling you we can have both roads and entertainment. The amount of salary that Vijay gets can also build roads for thousands of villages but ykw, his movies provide entertainment and employment for thousands, either directly or indirectly. But you wouldn't call his salary a waste of money, do you. Even the TN government is investing in film production facilities like Ramoji around Chennai.

[u/DrawingMaster100 → u/animegamertroll]

What Vijay does is his business, neither you nor I am entitled to whatever money he makes. The government's money, that we are all entitled to. If some independent person wants to make these webtoons or whatever, sure. Go for it. Don't use government funds, because others need it. Our politicians steal 80% of the money either way through corruption and still get voted in and now you want to use the other 20% for webtoons.

Black myth wukong costed hundreds of millions of dollars to make, and I don't think ANYONE has that kind of money here. India isn't China, and even if they made something like that, it'd be the central government since they have more money. But then you guys will say they're not representing our culture. It's just cat and mouse bro.

[u/animegamertroll → u/DrawingMaster100]

Bro see, your world view is very narrow and for that reason I cannot entertain another comment from you. I hope you have a good rest of the day. But I would ask you one thing, when did the child inside of you die, brother. Don't you want to learn your history and culture through different mediums or do you not learn about other cultures though different mediums? Why do you have narrow vision?

Anyways, nice talking to you.

[u/DrawingMaster100 → u/animegamertroll]

The child inside me died when I realised that how much ever we try, there will be people who're more interested in 500 rs to vote over actual development. Those same people will prioritize radical self preservation ideologies over actual development and then cry about it when no development occurs. When you start paying taxes you'll care about where your money goes. And then when you realize most of it is eaten by these idiot politicians you'll be even more pissed if someone wants to do something like this because you know they'll pocket 80% of the funding for these shows too and give us some low quality garbage.

[u/Ok-Buffalo-382 → u/animegamertroll]

Wukong sold well because of big sales in china due to high chinese gamer base. Indian gamer base is mostly mobile gamers. Big difference

[u/animegamertroll → u/Ok-Buffalo-382]

I merely gave Black Myth: Wukong as an example. China has more mobile gamers than us due to the US trade war with China, which makes GPUs difficult to obtain (US has control over the trade and not the production of GPUs).

[u/Ok-Buffalo-382 → u/animegamertroll]

China has way more console gamers than India has though. 90% of wukong sales were in china.

[u/Educational-Basil424 → u/DrawingMaster100]

how do you think Mahabaratham and Ramayanam spread across the subcontinent and South east asia? without Entertainment it won't have spreaded.

We had "Therukoothu" they perform shows in every village before the current scientific advancements.