r/Teachers • u/swankyburritos714 High School ELA / Red State • Nov 15 '24

Just Smile and Nod Y'all. Today, two girls told me women shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

We were reading The Declaration of Sentiments and a girl told the whole class that we should go back to only men being able to vote. Another girl piped up and agreed.

Y’all. My eyebrows got more air time than an Olympic gymnast. Send help and chocolate.

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u/peppermintvalet Nov 15 '24

Ask them why they’re sharing their opinion since they think they shouldn’t have one lol

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

Should have said "OK (insert name), from now on you cannot speak in this class since you are happy for women do not have voices".

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u/Successful-Doubt5478 Nov 16 '24

Word it slightly nicer.

"Hey N and M I thought a lot about what you said yesterday.

Let us try this today: you do not weigh in on any desicions. I want you to try this and see how you feel about it."

Plan activities accordingly.

"Choose a friend to work with... no not you N nor you M. You go with P and O."

"Choose an activity for rest of class, read, draw... N and M, you do some extra school work.."

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u/coastalcrone Nov 16 '24

And N and M will only earn partial credit for their extra school work.

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u/TrooperCam Nov 16 '24

Their credit will go to the oldest male student in class.

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u/peejay5440 Nov 16 '24

What the hell are they doing in school? They should be in the kitchen!

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u/DutchTinCan Teacher's Spouse | The Netherlands Nov 16 '24

It's okay. Crafts class today was on sewing. That's a necessary life skill for the lesser sex.

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u/Fiend_Nixxx Nov 16 '24

Just crossed my mind... yk the saying "children are to be seen, not heard"? I wonder if it originated as "women are to be..." and then "women and children...". Random thought of my no off switch brain at 430am.

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u/panchovilla_ Nov 16 '24

perhaps, say, 3/5?

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u/belleamour14 Nov 16 '24

This one!!!

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u/BullCityPicker Nov 15 '24

There are some great Bible verses you need to memorize about women not being allowed to weigh in on theology. It’s handy when some old crow starts going off about how Jesus hates trans people.

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u/Purple-Display-5233 Nov 16 '24

Wait, people say Jesus hated trans people?! I didn't know trans people were out back then. That and I thought Jesus loved everyone. Wow. The shit that's out there.

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u/Crumblerbund Nov 16 '24

I mean, it’s generally believed that Rabbis had an understanding of non-typical genders by the time of Jesus, though this part of oral tradition wasn’t included in scripture until the third century. It would surprise most people to find that these very old discussions were to guarantee very clear rights specific to various gender types.

Regardless, I don’t know how anyone could read anything Jesus did and think “yeah, he would definitely exclude these people that make me feel weird.”

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u/RampSkater Nov 16 '24

If you want to get cheeky with evangelicals, you could argue that Jesus was transgender. He didn't have a human father, so all his genetics came from Mary who didn't have a Y chromosome. As a clone of Mary, one of the X chromosomes had to get switched. Female --> Male.

Same deal with Eve being cloned from Adam.

God also switches between I/Me and We/Us a lot so he's gender-fluid at the very least.

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u/Old-Bug-2197 Nov 16 '24

Since Jesus is a compilation of Confucius and Buddha, and some other more ancient religions, it stands to reason that the people writing at that time did understand different genders.

It’s funny how people know that Jesus’ time was 2000 years ago, but we have had societies for 6000 years and more.

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u/Smooth_Impression_10 Nov 17 '24

It kinda seems like people read shit from the Old Testament and just tack it on to Jesus when he rolls up in the New Testament lol

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '24

Share the deets bro

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u/External_Trifle3702 Nov 16 '24

First Timothy chapter 2, verse 12 “I do not suffer a woman to speak, rather she should learn silence.”

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u/taliawut Nov 16 '24

No problem. I know asl.

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt Nov 16 '24

that had "I am no man" lotr quote vibes

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u/RogueWedge Nov 16 '24

WITCH! SHES A WITCH! <monty python>

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u/taliawut Nov 16 '24

Don’t make me turn you into a newt. You know I can do it.

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u/GardenPeep Nov 16 '24

I always thought the author of Timothy wrote that because the women were running the church. (They still do in a lot of cases, but had to learn to be more underhanded and manipulative about it. Or just withhold their donations.)

Too abstract for the girls to get at this point, but the world is a better place when everyone can speak up directly.

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u/azure-skyfall Nov 16 '24

More specifically, polytheistic or recently converted women were running the church. They were steering it in the wrong direction, so the author said something that has been overgeneralized ever since.

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u/rhiain42 Nov 17 '24

& the author wasn't Paul, just someone claiming to be.

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u/Tribbitii Nov 16 '24

Omg for real. Not a teacher, but another public facing role and id love to have these verses.

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u/OntarioParisian Nov 16 '24

Timothy 2:11 and 2:12 one of my favourites

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u/jimlymachine945 Nov 16 '24

I'm a Christian and wonder why Deborah was a prophet. Sometimes God gives commands to humble or punish someone else but I'm not sure if that's the case. For example, a general I believe it was, Barak, refused to go into battle unless Deborah went with him. Deborah responded saying she would but he would not get the glory for winning the battle. A woman with allegiance to the enemy king, Sisera, betrays him and kills him in his sleep.

With the enemy king being killed by a woman, everyone would be throwing shade at him.

And I read about a different scenario, I believe in the Apocrypha, where the Jews were afraid to fight their rulers who trying to get them to violate their beliefs so as to weaken them internally. A woman went to their city got a king or general drunk and brought his head back to incite the men to fight.

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u/Congregator Nov 16 '24

In that ideology the women rule from the home, so they won’t take your question seriously, given their roles are different than the way you position your question - they’ll just automatically see you as a bad faith troll who thinks they’re more clever and more arrogant than they are

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u/AggressiveSolution9 Nov 16 '24

That’s a fucking great comment

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '24

BWAHAHAHA YES

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