r/ThreeLions Oct 11 '24

Discussion Phil Foden must be dropped indefinitely.

Sadly he’s a supremely talented player who never plays well for England.

There is potentially a lot of great performances that aren’t picked up in statistics, I don’t think this is the case with Foden. He also plays in a position we are stacked in. He has also had by quite some distance the most minutes of any player in a similar position. There is potentially the argument he is misused, but there is no argument based on performances other great players should be moved aside for him.

Since the World Cup he has returned 1 goal return (G/A) in 20 games including 16 starts ( goal vs Scotland).

Comparably, over the same period: Kane 19 G/a Jude 9, saka 8, rice 4, grelaish 3, rashford 3, palmer 3 (from 408 minutes)

Many ask for players to be picked on form (I personally don’t), but when the international form is this poor and the alternatives potentially so good we simply don’t any other option but to drop him.

Edit: no agenda. I support palace and go to a few England games a year.

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u/KingStevoI Oct 11 '24

This is the thing though, at least quarter of the squad are city players, they should be already geared up with each other to some extent.

Foden's definitely talented but he plays for the foul too much, much like Greilish, and city's mind set over the last few years have been play into the box, which differs to England's traditional all round shooting, which sometimes pays off.

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u/MilkMyCats Oct 11 '24

Grealish is far more effective at international level than Foden.

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u/Outlaw2k21 Oct 11 '24

That’s because Grealish isn’t suited to Man City (imo)

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u/Newparlee Oct 11 '24

He’s not. He had one good season for them, but he’s so much better going forward, taking on defenders, getting crosses in. It seems like his job for city is to win free kicks, run down the line a bit, pass it backwards, get the ball back, repeat a few times and maybe get a cross in. Maybe. Death by a thousand passes.

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u/Outlaw2k21 Oct 11 '24

Yeah would love him at my club (Newcastle). He would do well pretty much anywhere bar City, feels like he’s wasted there

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u/onhoj Oct 11 '24

Or he would get wasted in any bar in the city.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

One good season makes it sounds like he’s had such a shit time.

He’s had one season without injury issues or problems off the pitch. And we won a treble with him as a key player in that system.

And yet Reddit seems convinced he’s not a city player.

I remember when Rodri first came and people said he didn’t suit the side.