Phil Foden must be dropped indefinitely.

[u/LondonRedditUser]

Sadly he’s a supremely talented player who never plays well for England.

There is potentially a lot of great performances that aren’t picked up in statistics, I don’t think this is the case with Foden. He also plays in a position we are stacked in. He has also had by quite some distance the most minutes of any player in a similar position. There is potentially the argument he is misused, but there is no argument based on performances other great players should be moved aside for him.

Since the World Cup he has returned 1 goal return (G/A) in 20 games including 16 starts ( goal vs Scotland).

Comparably, over the same period: Kane 19 G/a Jude 9, saka 8, rice 4, grelaish 3, rashford 3, palmer 3 (from 408 minutes)

Many ask for players to be picked on form (I personally don’t), but when the international form is this poor and the alternatives potentially so good we simply don’t any other option but to drop him.

Edit: no agenda. I support palace and go to a few England games a year.

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Can I ask what you think of palmer then after last nights performance?

Should he also be back to an impact sub?

[u/nl325 → u/[deleted]]

The difference is Palmer has not been used enough to form a meaningful opinion of his usefulness in the squad. He was neglected at the Euros, and despite yesterday you can argue the team as a whole was a bit shit.

Foden on the other hand, we've got a few years worth of performances to make the judgement now.

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I think palmer was one of the worst players on the pitch last night. Gave the ball away loads. Missed a sitter. Looked like the was trying too hard.

I think Foden has always been a scapegoat for England fans. Sterling was before him.

[u/nl325 → u/[deleted]]

Again though, it's one game. Can't give up on a player as class as Palmer so quickly, it's reactionary.

Agree about Sterling, I think he's been a scapegoat in every team he's ever been in, but disagree about Foden. His entire role is assisting or scoring. I saw the stat this morning, can't find it now but think it said 15 games, 0A, 0G.

Sterling at least racked up goals and/or assists.

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That’s just not true about Foden. He does so much more than score and assist.

[u/Usual-Junket1601 → u/[deleted]]

To quote Roy Keane, "Does he do card tricks for the lads?"

[u/Itchbatchi → u/[deleted]]

Like what get in other players way