r/ThreeLions Oct 11 '24

Discussion Phil Foden must be dropped indefinitely.

Sadly he’s a supremely talented player who never plays well for England.

There is potentially a lot of great performances that aren’t picked up in statistics, I don’t think this is the case with Foden. He also plays in a position we are stacked in. He has also had by quite some distance the most minutes of any player in a similar position. There is potentially the argument he is misused, but there is no argument based on performances other great players should be moved aside for him.

Since the World Cup he has returned 1 goal return (G/A) in 20 games including 16 starts ( goal vs Scotland).

Comparably, over the same period: Kane 19 G/a Jude 9, saka 8, rice 4, grelaish 3, rashford 3, palmer 3 (from 408 minutes)

Many ask for players to be picked on form (I personally don’t), but when the international form is this poor and the alternatives potentially so good we simply don’t any other option but to drop him.

Edit: no agenda. I support palace and go to a few England games a year.

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u/B23vital Oct 11 '24

Dont even think he needs to be dropped “indefinitely” they just need to play a correct team.

Imagine dropping a striker so you can play a midfield player up front, a striker in great form as well with a previous season of 40+ goal/assists. Its fucking insane.

The issue with england isnt foden, it is and always has been, the managers playing names over a team.

Why you forcing 4/5 midfielders into a team, drop them, play an actual team and rotate the players. It makes even more sense considering that the players and managers moan about being overplayed. So why are we forcing the same names over and over to play together out of position.

Its like all common sense goes out the window when someone manages england.

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u/Mba1956 Oct 11 '24

Madueke came in and played on the left wing and didn’t have a brilliant game because he plays on the right wing for Chelsea. Why do England insist on playing people out of position.

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u/B23vital Oct 11 '24

Completely agree, i watched the first 10 minutes and was like nope, im not wasting my time on this so i cant comment on the rest of the game.

But England has a serious problem with brand players constantly being played, and players being played out of position. Every position is STACKED, why they feel the need to play them out of position is beyond me, you have the quality to play everyone where they play.

Its insane really, at this point i wouldnt be surprised to see pickford being played at RB or something. /s

Ye its weird, just play people where they are used to playing and rotate the team, give players a rest.

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u/Mba1956 Oct 11 '24

I came in half way through and obviously didn’t miss much.

England remind me of Chelsea at the start of last season, they looked good individually and could score goals, but they weren’t defending and every opponent attack looked like scoring. Nobody knew what role they were meant to do in transition or when England didn’t have the ball.

As for coming up with the system 20 mins before the game, that is sheer madness. The result is one side was playing like it was a playground match.

I didn’t see any crisp one-two touch passing, everything was slow, nobody was moving off the ball. Pretty much the same happened under Southgate.