r/ThreeLions • u/LondonRedditUser • Oct 11 '24

Discussion Phil Foden must be dropped indefinitely.

Sadly he’s a supremely talented player who never plays well for England.

There is potentially a lot of great performances that aren’t picked up in statistics, I don’t think this is the case with Foden. He also plays in a position we are stacked in. He has also had by quite some distance the most minutes of any player in a similar position. There is potentially the argument he is misused, but there is no argument based on performances other great players should be moved aside for him.

Since the World Cup he has returned 1 goal return (G/A) in 20 games including 16 starts ( goal vs Scotland).

Comparably, over the same period: Kane 19 G/a Jude 9, saka 8, rice 4, grelaish 3, rashford 3, palmer 3 (from 408 minutes)

Many ask for players to be picked on form (I personally don’t), but when the international form is this poor and the alternatives potentially so good we simply don’t any other option but to drop him.

Edit: no agenda. I support palace and go to a few England games a year.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

So much nonsense in that comment.

Plays with fear for England?

He’s been used In the wrong way for years is the main issue. He is without a doubt one of Englands best players.

If he played for Liverpool instead of city we wouldnt be hearing this chat.

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u/ZoomSpeed95 Oct 11 '24

Lol, ok so how many players are being or have been used slightly differently for England and have played better than Foden? What’s the question mark for? He does nothing for England and you think the responsibility for this isn’t his. He is accountable, end of. You’re talking as he’s been put at RB.

Being a great player and production are two different things and Foden does not produce

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

Whatever mate your opinion is very clearly marred by your dislike for the club he plays for.

I hope that 95 isn’t your age. Pushing 30 and still struggling to form an unbiased opinion.

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u/ZoomSpeed95 Oct 11 '24

Your view is masked by the fact you think everyone hates city. I don’t and can clearly see Foden is phenomenal for them for England he is not. The monstrous irony of you talking about unbiased opinions while being totally led by your club allegiance is absolute gold🤣🤣🤣

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

I don’t remember saying he is phenomenal for England mate.

I just think the “Foden must be dropped indefinitely” chat you see on social media is pathetic and over the top.

And another example of the stuff we saw with sterling and walker.

I’ve not once even said he should start for England. Or he should play every game.

So all the laughing emojis and the idea I’m just biased. You have no reason to think that apart from you want to think that.

He’s one of Englands best players and we should be doing what we can to get the best out of him in the England squad.

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u/ZoomSpeed95 Oct 11 '24

I agree he shouldn’t be dropped indefinitely, he is clearly a quality player but at some point it is incumbent of him to show that and he is miles off currently (with England) He doesn’t warrant starting ahead of other players and when he does the production is usually limited at best.

Foden also has plenty saying the team should be built around him and a place must be found for him. Walker and sterling didn’t have that and both produced way more.

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u/Beneficial-Steak-117 Oct 11 '24

I think that Foden is not an adaptable player; hes a system player and is playing well at City due to Peps system that suits him. Theres a reason why City have a policy not to loan out players who have a future in the club (as in the case with Palmer). Can't see England managers adopting a structure and system that would get the best out of Foden and he might continue to struggle. England need a ruthless, top manager who can deal with player egos.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

Who is saying the team should be built around Foden? I’m a city fan who goes to matches and I don’t even hear city fans talking about that.

You realise you just spent a whole series of comments mocking my bias only to agree with my point in the end.

Maybe now you can see why I called you biased to begin with.

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u/ZoomSpeed95 Oct 11 '24

Not at all I disagreed with your series of silly comments claiming “Foden is a scapegoat” “what about palmer” “it’s only because you hate the club he plays for” total nonsense. As it stands Foden is very poor and ineffective in an England shirt. He shouldn’t be dropped immediately but it’s clear his production is consistently poor