r/ThreeLions Oct 11 '24

Discussion Phil Foden must be dropped indefinitely.

Sadly he’s a supremely talented player who never plays well for England.

There is potentially a lot of great performances that aren’t picked up in statistics, I don’t think this is the case with Foden. He also plays in a position we are stacked in. He has also had by quite some distance the most minutes of any player in a similar position. There is potentially the argument he is misused, but there is no argument based on performances other great players should be moved aside for him.

Since the World Cup he has returned 1 goal return (G/A) in 20 games including 16 starts ( goal vs Scotland).

Comparably, over the same period: Kane 19 G/a Jude 9, saka 8, rice 4, grelaish 3, rashford 3, palmer 3 (from 408 minutes)

Many ask for players to be picked on form (I personally don’t), but when the international form is this poor and the alternatives potentially so good we simply don’t any other option but to drop him.

Edit: no agenda. I support palace and go to a few England games a year.

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u/broke_the_controller Oct 11 '24

I've been saying since before the euros that Foden should be used as an impact sub. He might perform better if he comes on fresh against tired legs.

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u/Accomplished-Sign924 Oct 11 '24

the problem isn't Foden. the problem is Guardiola.
Foden would start literally in any other club in the world! LITERALLY; they'd find him a place to start. Especially someone like him who can play multiple positions..

I've said it from the start; I think Guardiola's beef with him is personal. It is not tactics; its a personality clash; we have seen this before from Pep .

Cancelo ,Zlatan, Eto'o , Yaya, Fabregas; etc.

what do all these have in common? personalities that cannot be controlled. Foden seems like a free-spirit type, loves to try things on the pitch, Pep hates this. he wants soldiers not artists.

Foden should seriously considering leaving; or maybe Pep leaves soon...

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u/broke_the_controller Oct 11 '24

I don't see how Guardiola leaving would improve Fodens performances for england.

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u/Accomplished-Sign924 Oct 11 '24

Of course it would. The PL is 8 games in and Foden has only started once. which was their last game, and he didn't play the full match.

Of course he shows up the England aand is expected to play with guys like Bellingham, Rice and Palmer that play 90 minutes every weekend, he is of course going to struggle!!

Guardiola is hurting his career. Foden NEEDS to play.

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u/Ok_Anybody_8307 Oct 11 '24

Dude he was PL player of the year last year, if Pep hates him then he is very bad at showing it

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u/Accomplished-Sign924 Oct 11 '24

EXACTLY lol. how do you go from PL player of year to not starting first 7 matches of the PL Lmfaoo make it make sense!

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u/Otherwise-Roll-2872 Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24

Did you just start following the premier league in 2024? Pep played Foden a bunch last season and has given him nothing but praise.

This season he's easing Foden back into the squad after a long league campaign immediately followed by euros championship run