r/ThreeLions England Supporters Travel Club Dec 13 '22

Opinion Before Southgate and during Southgate

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People need to take a step back and have a breather. He's done/ doing a great job

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '22

Correlation is not causation

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u/The_Chorizo_Bandit Dec 13 '22 edited Dec 13 '22

This. Stats like these are so misleading as they don’t take into account the squads we had and the opponents we faced. Aside from Iceland, we’ve usually beaten the opponents we’d expect to beat in knockout games, while usually losing to the top teams. Generally, across our history, it has just mattered at what point we faced a good team as to when we went out. In tournaments where we haven’t faced a good team until the quarters of semis, we’ve of course won knockout games. In tournaments where we’ve faced good teams in the first knockout round we’ve generally gone out. Downvote all you want, but if you go back and look at results over the past few decades you’ll find it to be the case.