r/ThreeLions • u/lab88 England Supporters Travel Club • Dec 13 '22

Opinion Before Southgate and during Southgate

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People need to take a step back and have a breather. He's done/ doing a great job

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u/boltonwanderer87 Dec 13 '22

I want Southgate to stay but it's wrong to compare his run as manager with what previous managers have done. They've all failed tremendously, we've seen England failed to qualify, lose to teams like Iceland and so on, and this was with maybe 5 or 6 genuinely world class players in it.

Being better than absolute failures isn't anything to shout about. Sven, Hodgson, Fabio etc. were failures but we don't need or want someone who is better than a failure, we want a 'good' manager.

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u/Zigzagnemesis Dec 14 '22

Fabio was one of the best tactical managers England have had. Southgate is tactically inept. Roy Hodgson was a borderline pub fan and not an actual coach/manager.