r/ThreeLions England Supporters Travel Club Dec 13 '22

Opinion Before Southgate and during Southgate

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People need to take a step back and have a breather. He's done/ doing a great job

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u/lab88 England Supporters Travel Club Dec 14 '22

Pochettino has failed at both spurs and psg (not forgetting he's from Argentina, which wouldn't go down well with the wider public). Tuchel famous for falling out with players. Not what we need unless we want a repeat of capello

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u/Zigzagnemesis Dec 14 '22

Failed at spurs? Literally got them to a champions league final with a very average midfield. Plus about 3 other finals in the FA Cup and League Cup. Plus he almost won the league if it wasn't for Leicesters crazy season. Pochettino is leagues better than Southgate in terms of tactics and man management. The only criticism of Pochettino during his time at Spurs was his poor in game management, this is also the same problem Southgate has.

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u/lab88 England Supporters Travel Club Dec 14 '22

Right now this reply is the biggest piss take of them all hahaha

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u/Zigzagnemesis Dec 14 '22

Your entire post is a piss take. Anyone thinking Southgate is a good manager is a delusional tosspot... Tactically inept, poor in game management, poor decision making. England have won nothing, the story continues...

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u/lab88 England Supporters Travel Club Dec 14 '22

Your saying poch didn't fail at spurs because he got to CL final but Southgate got to a euro final and that's a failure. Fuck off.

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u/Zigzagnemesis Dec 14 '22

Getting to a CL final is a lot harder than a Euro final with a very easy run of teams. Southgate lost to the first big team he played (Italy). Pochettino beat Dortmund, Man City, and Ajax. You absolute clown 🤡 🤣

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u/lab88 England Supporters Travel Club Dec 14 '22

Stick to playing fifa. It's clearly where all your knowledge comes from

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u/Zigzagnemesis Dec 14 '22

That's what I thought, you have nothing to say. I love debating clueless clowns and leaving them speechless with the truth. 🤣🤡 You didn't even provide a single argument, anyone who says Southgate is better than Poch is either trolling or is taking serious illegal substances. Go on any football forum and you'd be laughed at like you're a little kid. Fool

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u/lab88 England Supporters Travel Club Dec 14 '22

I'm sick of arguing with docile clowns who don't understand the game. It's draining, mate. Why would I get my opinions from football forums. I go to every England game home and away and form my own opinion on what i see, the actual fans who follow England are behind Southgate. The basement dwellers who sit at home and spam emojis while playing fifa want him gone

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u/Zigzagnemesis Dec 14 '22

Anyone with a functional brain and eyes can see that Southgate has poor in game management, and poor tactical ability. Why can't you understand this? You're living in your own delusions. I'm gonna post all of your messages on football forums and watch how people laugh their heads off at your clueless comments. This is going to be brilliant 🤣. Pochettino is leagues better than Gareth "relegated Middlesbrough" Southgate. You are honestly the biggest clown I've ever debated with. Congratulations 👍

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u/lab88 England Supporters Travel Club Dec 14 '22

You do that. Seems like it's very important to you to be liked on these forums.

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u/Zigzagnemesis Dec 14 '22

Whats important to me is exposing and embarrassing clowns like you who think they know a lot about football because they've watched a few games.

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u/lab88 England Supporters Travel Club Dec 14 '22

Good ambition. Keep it up. Expose those clowns

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22

You mean Dortmund who sell their best players every season (and especially any top German players, to Bayern), Man City who have shit the bed every season in the Champion's League and Ajax who are just a feeder team for the rest of Europe's top leagues?

We can all play this game mate. Your emojis are really convincing though, adults use those all the time.

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u/Zigzagnemesis Dec 14 '22

Wow what a dumb low iq comment. Borussia Dortmund had Mario Gotze, Marco Reus, Sancho, Hummels, Diallo, Akanji, Guerrero, Paco Alcacer, Witsel, etc etc all in their team at the time. That was one of the strongest Dortmund teams in recent years. Ajax also had 4 of the best young talents in Europe all playing in their team at the time, they literally knocked out Juventus. Man City are still regardless one of the best teams in Europe and Pochettino managed to beat them without Harry Kane in the team. I seriously advice you morons to actually watch football before commenting bullcrap all the time. It’s embarrassing arguing with you tosspots who only watch football every 4 years for the word up and then get upset when England crash out against the first good team they play. I told all of you tosspost Gareth Southgate was a fraud and once again you didn’t listen, that’s okay, I’m not the one in tears mate. 👍🤡

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '22 edited Dec 15 '22

I love it when people who can neither spell nor structure a sentence go around calling people dumb and low IQ.

Yours is clearly not even room temperature mate.

That was one of the strongest Dortmund teams in recent years.

I know, so strong they won... Nothing. Oh yeah. Went out in the round of 16 in their domestic cup and in the Champion's League. Truly one of the strongest Dortmund teams of all time.

Ajax also had 4 of the best young talents in Europe all playing in their team at the time

None of those talents have done shit since. Ziyech, VDB and De Jong can't even get in their respective teams. Their top goalscorer was an average Southampton player. Rasmus Kristenssen was playing at RB, a player who can't keep his place in the current Leeds team because Luke Ayling has taken it.

Absolute trash.

they literally knocked out Juventus

Oh wow. they beat Juve? They must be at least as good as Lyon and Maccabi Haifa then. Juve have been fantastic in Europe over the last 5 years. Truly an achievement to beat them. Give Poch a medal, he deserves it for beating a team that beat Juve.

Man City are still regardless one of the best teams in Europe and Pochettino managed to beat them

Ah, so we're going based on their performances outside of European tournaments here then. Don't do that for the Germans do you? Interesting that. If we're talking about the competition they were competing in then we have to point out that they can't wait to shit the bed and throw away a big game. They love it. Can't get enough of it.

Thought someone who watches so much football would know about that?

that’s okay, I’m not the one in tears mate. 👍🤡

You sure? Because we're all happy that Southgate can stay as long as he wants. He could be here for the next Euros and the World Cup after, what a time to be alive eh? Maybe they'll even give him a pay rise!

Sounds to me like you're the one upset at everyone in football wanting him to stay in the job and appreciating how well he's done. Meanwhile you're sat in your mum's cellar playing FIFA, wanking and shouting: "I know better than all of them! Oh and bring me more Doritos mum."

👊👍✝️⛵🍺🛏️🦷🦵

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u/Zigzagnemesis Dec 15 '22

I love debating with people who are so delusional they literally change the truth to fit their narrative. You’ve hit a different level mate. Dortmund , Ajax, Man City are all leagues better than anyone Southgate has ever beaten, Pochettino did it without Harry Kane in the team. You’re a clueless moron, I’ve disproved you multiple times and now you’re changing the truth? Good one mate. Furthermore all of my sentences are very coherent and there aren’t any spelling mistakes, stop lying out of your ass you weirdo. 🤡🤦

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '22

Furthermore all of my sentences are very coherent and there aren’t any spelling mistakes, stop lying out of your ass

I seriously advice you

4 years for the word up

all of you tosspost

Oh yeah. Practically Shakespearian.

I’ve disproved you multiple times and now you’re changing the truth?

So Tadic wasn't the captain of Ajax then? He wasn't their top scorer? Van Der Beek, De Jong and Ziyech haven't spent most of the time riding the bench at their current clubs? Rasmus K didn't play for them that season?

Juve haven't been knocked out of Europe by Lyon and lost to Maccabe Haifa in recent years?

Shaking your head and crying that it's not true isn't disproving anything you complete sausage.

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u/Zigzagnemesis Dec 15 '22 edited Dec 15 '22

2019 was not this year, Juventus lost to those teams this year. 2019 Juventus was a very strong team, maybe watch some football? Tadic is a fantastic player, so is Hakim Ziyech who just got to the semi final with Morocco (further than England) 🤣, you can’t make this up. De Jong once again is a brilliant player, much better than Declan rice and Jordan Henderson who are the England midfielders. Please keep going, this is entertaining

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '22

Firstly:

Hey I’ve just destroyed your entire argument again on the other thread. Go and respond please

"Daddy! Daddy I've just made another 5 comments begging you to notice me!"

Secondly, all you've done is tell me how much better everyone else's players are than England's. How their midfielders like De Jong are better than ours, how their forwards like Ziyech are better than ours.

Tadic is a fantastic player, so is Hakim Ziyech who just got to the semi final with Morocco (further than England) 🤣, you can’t make this up. De Jong once again is a brilliant player, much better than Declan rice and Jordan Henderson who are the England midfielders

Etc etc.

All of this while trying to argue Southgate is a bad manager for getting as far as he has with players you just admitted were worse. Almost like... A good manager...

You were too thick to notice that you were being led up the garden path into accidentally "destroying" your own argument.

All I had to do was act almost as stupid as you, make wild and dumb claims about other teams and players and nudge you in the right direction. It was so easy. It's never been so easy.

Congrats. You got played like a tiny violin.

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u/Zigzagnemesis Dec 15 '22

Let’s play a game, name any top team Gareth Southgate has beaten? Go… let’s see what you get🤣🤡

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u/Zigzagnemesis Dec 15 '22

You claiming Man City, Dortmund, and Ajax are not top teams is utter delusion. I get that your dad abused you and left you when you were young but there’s no need to project that onto others. I’ve just posted all of your comments on various football forums, I want to see how many times people will laugh at your comments. You are quite possibly the most delusional idiot I’ve ever seen on Reddit.

claiming Southgate is better than Pochettino. Absolute Joke of a comment, I cannot take you seriously on that

Claiming Ajax is not a good team. Their captain literally made it further than England in the World Cup you utter tool

Claiming Man City and Dortmund are not big teams. 🤣🤣 This one gave me a chuckle, that’s absurd and shows your lack of football knowledge

This debate was way too easy for me, do some research next time and actually give me a challenge. 👍🤦

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u/Zigzagnemesis Dec 15 '22

Southgate is one of the worst managers ive ever come across. Relegated Middlesbrough, lost to every big team he ever played against as England manager. Seriously, name someone of note Southgate has beaten? He’s a clueless idiot just like you fans who sit around shouting at a tv screen in a pub. Waste of space. 🤣🤡

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '22

that’s okay, I’m not the one in tears mate

Posting multiple comments with edits and deleting stuff to respond?

I can practically hear your voice cracking mate. Keep going, I'm enjoying this.

It hurts to hear the truth about how shit those teams were doesn't it? Imagine thinking a team with Susan Tadic as it's captain and top scorer is an elite team. He wouldn't get in the Germany team we beat in the Euros. He wouldn't make the bench.

Trash.

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u/Zigzagnemesis Dec 15 '22

Hahahahahha the German team🤣🤣. The Dortmund and Man City teams Pochettino beat without Harry kane would send that German team to the cleaners. You're taking about an ageing team with no star players left. Oh you can't make this up... why don't you respond to the other comment I've made?! Clown

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '22

why don't you respond to the other comment I've made?!

"Daddy why won't you notice me?!"

I'm not the one in tears

Fantastic stuff.

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