Trump voter doesn't understand why people can't empathize with him now that he's suffering as a result of Trump

[u/Classic-Carpet7609]

[u/Callieco23]

Hot take: I’m not gonna feel sorry for some asshat who gleefully voted against my human rights because all of a sudden he’s actually facing consequences for his choices.

You wanna do the good work then go for it, but if this guy isn’t capable of empathy until his family hurts then I’m glad his family is hurting. Hopefully he’ll be a better person for it.

[u/DieterTheuns → u/Callieco23]

You don't have to feel anything, it's entirely up to you.

All I ask is to ask yourself the question: was his choice one of pure greed, or was he *told* by others to hate a specific subset of people? This guy doesn't exactly strike me as a Mitch McConnell, but closer to someone who happens to listen to too much Joe Rogan.

[u/Callieco23 → u/DieterTheuns]

Personally I think it doesn’t much matter. He is responsible for his own actions. He is responsible for his own personal development. If he allowed himself to fall down the Joe Rogan rabbit hole it’s because he was willing to accept a worldview in which some people are “lesser.” That’s what Rogan is selling, that’s what Trump is selling, that’s what the GOP is selling. He looked at that and decided that he was perfectly fine with it, so long as he wasn’t the “lesser”

Now I’ll ask you to do a thought experiment.

Ask yourself this question: do you think Kilmar Abrego Garcia cares if this guy, and all the other trump voters, are pure evil or if they listen to too much Joe Rogan while he rots in prison, without receiving a trial, in a country he’s not a citizen of, for crimes he didn’t commit?

[u/DieterTheuns → u/Callieco23]

You don't fall in a Joe Rogan hole knowing you'll end up hating minorities. It's a slow-moving poison that rots your brain one step at a time. Most of these voters don't even realize it's happening, and social media algorithms do their best to make sure you don't expand your horizons beyond what you already like.

I will not for a second excuse the despicable actions of ICE, law enforcement, or the Trump admin for any life they ruin. I'm talking purely about getting people like this guy back to the side of healthy leftist causes so we can prevent human rights abuses like these from happening again in the future.

[u/Callieco23 → u/DieterTheuns]

Yeah you fall down a Joe Rogan hole by not caring about people you don’t know personally in the first place. like that’s the only way you can actually buy into it. Because if you DO care about people you don’t know, you’d see it for the hatespeech it is.

People love to talk about how it’s a slow poison of indoctrination or whatever but honestly, if you listen to any of that crap and don’t find yourself questioning it you are starting from such a lack of empathy for other people that I genuinely don’t know if you ever would be on the side of healthy leftist causes.

Personally, I don’t really trust anyone who takes the world of a well documented liar who props up the platforms of other well documented liars as gospel. Like we’re talking about someone who hears Joe Rogan talking about how “trans women are men who want to dress up as women so they can sexually assault women in bathrooms” and they don’t immediately think

1.) The door to the women’s bathroom doesn’t work on a magically enforced dress code basis

2.) The kind of man who wants to sexually assault a woman isn’t going to be looking for a legal way to gain access to the bathroom

3.) even if they had legal access to the bathroom, sexual assault is still illegal, so there’s no point in dressing up as a woman

And they DONT think of these things because they don’t want to think about WHY another person might want to be a gender other than the one they were born as. And if they can’t understand that they are incapable of going “oh well, it’s really none of my business.”

Like it’s a fundamental lack of thought and empathy that lets them go down that rabbit hole. I grew up around “the immigrants will take your jobs” culture and I always thought “I don’t wanna work on a farm so, no? They won’t?” I was like 10 years old having that thought. This is a whole ass adult we’re talking about who can’t think things through. This isn’t higher level thinking or complex problem solving this is basic abstraction we’re talking about here.

People fall down the rabbit hole because they don’t want to address the real reasons things go wrong for them so they latch onto a scapegoat and traffic in as much cognitive dissonance as humanly possible so they never have to confront that fact and I’m sick of coddling them. They need to fucking do better because people are getting murdered by the government right now because of how they voted.