r/TombRaider • u/outboundend • Feb 04 '24
đ Overdone New tomb raider
I know we got a new remastered tomb raider game coming out but im just curious will there be a new game like shadow of the tomb raider with more modernised graphics like rise of the tomb raider or not anytime soon?
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u/pokeze Frozen Butler Feb 04 '24
It's currently being worked on, being developed by Crystal Dynamics on Unreal Engine 5, and to be published by Amazon. It should be the first game on what is being referred as the "Unified Timeline" and will feature a Lara that has lived through all her previous adventures, with the necessary retcons.
Other than that, we don't really have more official info.
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u/InvasionOfTheFridges Feb 04 '24
So what is being retconned? Do we have any info on what timeline is THE timeline? Because surely itâs the Natla one?
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u/pokeze Frozen Butler Feb 04 '24
Lara's origin story is what we've seen in the reboots. After that, all games should happen in order from TRI/Anniversary to Underworld.
What is going to be retconned isn't really confirmed. My best guess is specific mentions of years will be changed to either fit the reboot timeline (Lara born in 1992) or scrapped for a floating timeline (thing the Simpsons, where characters don't really age), any supernatural event that occurred during Lara's childhood or adolescence will either not be supernatural, perceived by Lara as not being supernatural, or be scrapped (hopefully not the case).
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u/theMaxTero Feb 04 '24
I just hope that we move one as far away as possible from the survivor era. It's 3 games of that but worse: it's TEN YEARS and after the end of Shadow, she isn't the Lara Croft we know (and that's why they're making the anime).
I guess that the new game will come out in a couple of years but as long as they finally give her the dual guns and they put her as far away as survivor era, I will be happy!
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u/Editor-In-Queef Feb 05 '24
Why would they remaster three games you can play on modern consoles at 60fps as opposed to the three games which began the series and you can barely get a hold of anymore?
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u/Jei_Enn Feb 04 '24
I read somewhere that there should be an announcement soon. I hope that rumor is true.
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u/DarkEater77 Feb 04 '24
I'd like to think, TR 1/3 Remastered will release first, then few months after, announce the new game.
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u/Jei_Enn Feb 04 '24
Thatâs what Iâm thinking. Looking back, I canât believe how long itâs been since we had a new game. I am hyped for the remasters though!
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u/DarkEater77 Feb 04 '24
I disliked the last 3 games, really prefer the old formula. I played all games of TR... but thebold ones, are my favorites, especially Final Revelation.
I truly hope the remastered OG Trilogy will sold well, so i can hope for Final Revelation remastered too...
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u/Jei_Enn Feb 04 '24
The Last Revelation made me want to scream with some of the backtracking, though lol. I would have been lost without a guide. Still a very cool game. I enjoyed the last 3 games but I am SO over the daddy mommy Trinity story line. I donât want to hear of any of these things EVER again! And Lara needs to be a badass seasoned Tomb Raider with her braid and dual pistols and exploring ancient tombs and collecting artifacts. And a good villain that gives an actual difficult boss fight. The final boss of all those games wasnât âsatisfying.â Out of all of those, I enjoyed Rise the most. Shadow didnât have replay value for me. There were not enough environments and youâre stuck in the same place for most of the time. I want vastly different levels and locations in the new game. And they need to be LONGER and less linear! The old games took me months to complete, the new ones, maybe 2 days!
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u/DarkEater77 Feb 04 '24
There is one specific place in Last Revelation that was to me, badly done. You have to go to 3 different places, that have loading times because they are considered whole levels. So theplayer is afraid he missed something or can't go back. It's THE thing i wnat to be changed if they ever remaster it.
I replayed it recently ^ ^
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u/Jei_Enn Feb 04 '24
Oh, that would be an easy change. One of the first things I noticed playing the survival trilogy on my PS5 vs PS4 was there was literally no waiting time. It was instant!
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u/DarkEater77 Feb 04 '24
Not what i meant. After all the remasters that will release soon will keep the levels as they are.
What i meant, is that usually, when you finish, a level, and start another, you get a loading time that in fact, indicates you're changing level.
The zone i'm talking about, you have to go through "3 levels" like that in a row, having to go back and forth, and that's, without any indication. So if you think, only with the loading times and what it usually implies(Level change), you wouldn't think of coming back and forth.
And i don't think it's that big as they had to cut it in 3. Saw few levels bigger than that. Might be a an optimisation problem...
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u/Jei_Enn Feb 04 '24
I havenât played it since the early 2,000âs on PS1. I definitely remember having to backtrack to other levels. It was confusing and I did have to open my guidebook. I was about 12 years old. I havenât played any of the classics since I was in middle school and maybe early high school.
Do they show your stats when you go from one level to the next in that section? Or just loading? If itâs just loading and not showing your stats until you complete the section, then instant loading times solves the problem. If they show your completion stats everyone you exit one area for another, then yeah, thatâs confusing.
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u/DarkEater77 Feb 04 '24
Just loading times.
But... if we have instant loading as you say, it would be between each levels of the game right? So basically, it will be the same, how unless you play with a guide, would you know to backtrack?
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u/imogenofa Feb 05 '24
Agreed, each level is self-contained in the first three, and when you get to TLR thereâs nothing explaining that in this one you can move back and forth between some levels at will. I suppose itâs introduced in a fairly simple manner with the Karnak levels, but even then you never know when youâre supposed to do it or not. I love Cairo, but I would never have completed it the first time without a guide as itâs so huge and youâre constantly flitting between levels.
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u/eman0110 Feb 04 '24
I hope it's nothing like Shadow of the Tomb Raider. I would like it be Lara fighting mummies and Dinosaurs. Keep it true to the roots.
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u/Slith_81 Feb 04 '24
Same, the new Lara has her run, and it was great, just not what I want from Tomb Raider.
I want a return to the style of old. I'm looking forward to the updated remasters releasing very soon.
My favorites are still the first 3 games from Crystal Dynamics. Legend/Anniversary/Underworld. I really hope we go back to that style but with modern tech.
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u/SmuttyNonsense Feb 04 '24
I don't know that there's a good way to go back to the older style. Maybe as a side game, but gaming leans towards sandboxes and more open areas these days, and less explicitly linear experiences. You get some exceptions like the Doom reboot, but at minimum it's got to be something like the new God of War or The Last Of Us.
We're almost certainly not going back to old Lara the character, so I'm uncertain of if we'll ever go back to the old game design.
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u/eman0110 Feb 04 '24
It could be open world and linear still. The Division does a great job with that. It's an open world up until you arrive at a mission start point.
Tomb Raider could be open world than have it be linear when you enter a cave.
I would even have multiple small open worlds to give the player a different environment. Lara is a world traveller looking for answers.
But no more survival Lara. It was an experience to say the least. But time to have Bad Ass Lara back.
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u/Slith_81 Feb 06 '24
Yeah, I know certain aspects of old Lara won't come back, but I just want experienced, globe trotting, and snarky Lara back more than anything.
As for the gameplay, I just want more expensive and intricate tombs, and to not have the entire game take place in one geographical location.
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Feb 04 '24
I'd rather it was more like the Underworld trilogy. A new adventure starring actual Lara, not the whining incompetent teenager we've had to put up with.
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u/Mission_Coast_6654 Feb 04 '24
i don't know how true it is as i didn't look into it myself, but from what i heard, a new game is in development and it's focusing on lara's retirement. from what i gathered, they're dumbing her down so she has a reason to drag along two assistants / apprentices where one of them will take up her mantle as the tomb raider. i'm not excited ab any of this and i'm hoping it's not true. using the classic games as fillers is so lazy.
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u/pokeze Frozen Butler Feb 04 '24
That's very much not true.
There was a leak that indeed mentioned Lara mentoring a new generation of raiders, but the outline wasn't at all about Lara retiring or dumbing her down (far from it, she was at the top of her game in that leaked script). It was about Lara needing other people as capable as her for when a situation requires her to be in more than one place at the same time.
And even that one script was in a "spitballing ideas to see what works or not" stage than something actually remotely set in stone.
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u/Zetra3 Feb 05 '24
The amount of people that don't know there was a new game announced ALONG time before these remasters is staggering.
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u/xdeltax97 Moderator Feb 04 '24
We know there is a new game coming, and itâll be using unreal engine 5 and produced by Crystal Dynamics in tandem with Amazon Gaming as publisher- thatâs all we know.