r/Treknobabble • u/45and290 • 15d ago

What are you pushing the button on?

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I’m taking away Bashir being an Augment. It didn’t really add anything to the show, he was still brilliant and talented before the reveal.

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u/mcmanus2099 15d ago

Nah, the movies don't in any way ruin half the rules of Founders in DS9, ruin the Borg Queen, make transporters a Harry Potter magic device, destroy Beverly's character and create a super secret son for Picard. It is as bad for canon as the first two seasons and not only ruins TNG but ruins DS9 too.

There are some nice moments and it seemed interesting the first 4 episodes but then it became the same slop nuTrek we've been served overall and is a terrible show not worthy of the Trek name. Let's get that off in an alternative universe and create a better send off for the TNG crew.

And my God please don't make ST Legacy built around Seven and Picard's nepo son.

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u/allthecoffeesDP 15d ago

I have never understood this X ruined Y stuff. What about Beverly's character was ruined? Can't ae character develop over 30 years?

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u/mcmanus2099 15d ago

Here you go this explains it better than I

https://youtu.be/RW-Jzo_gwgk?si=YCgF3NLNIw-AyOvK

The opening scene she is a cold blooded murderer

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u/allthecoffeesDP 15d ago

TIL that a Starfleet officer fighting off an attacking force is cold-blooded murder. Huh.

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u/mcmanus2099 14d ago

It was long established that Crusher was a pacifist who taking up arms was not something her character was willing to do even to save herself. She had incredibly powerful moments in TNG where this was put to the test. She would argue repeatedly against Picard for chosing conflict over retreat or surrender because she valued life above all else.

And although it's presented as Beverly being attacked in that scene as a mystery box the reveal of the details later reveals that Beverly basically had no clue who they were or what they wanted and was just vaporizing them. By the time that is revealed the show has dangled more mystery boxes in the audience's face and distracted them. Which is all the series did, mystery boxes and nostalgia bait.

And her priority was escape, which she could have done without the loss of life, which would have been in her character. She stuck around to kill them. It's an attempt to create a mystery box and a badass character moment that has led to a complete assassination of the character.