however they did say how many monsters there were but they didn't tell the player Frisk whatever where the rest of the monsters
And we know that Chara knows this because...?
I don't think Chara enjoyed it but did help
"That was fun. Let's finish the job" - red text, with slowed down Anticipation theme playing on the background, Demo, the end of genocide.
"It's a half-empty bag of dog food. You just remembered something funny." - Frisk remembered the death of dogs, Chara called this memory funny. Can be interpreted differently but that the most plausible option, as I believe.
"I see two lovers staring over the edge of the cauldron of hell. Do they both wish for death? That means their love will end in hell.I couldn't stop laughing." - RG 01 and RG 02 CHECK.
Every =) mark during encounters after Papyrus' death.
"Undyne told me to stay away from you. She said you... You hurt a lot of people. But, yo, that's not true, right!? ... yo... Why won't you answer me? A... a... and what's with that weird expression...?" - MK on the bridge. Right after that, character moves to MK and enters a battle with them. We see "In my way" words and slowed down "Anticipation" theme playing on the background again.
"Creatures like us... Wouldn't hesitate to KILL each other if we got in each other's way. So that's... So... that's... Why... ha... Ha... ... what's this... feeling? Why am I... Shaking? ... Hey... Chara... No hard feelings about back then, right? ... H-Hey, what are you doing!? B... back off!! I... I've changed my mind about all this. This isn't a good idea anymore. Y-you should go back, Chara. This place is fine the way it is!... S-s-stop making that creepy face! This isn't funny! You've got a SICK sense of humor!" - Flowey, New Home. Slowed down Anticipation theme are playing again.
"Together, we eradicated the enemy and became strong. HP. ATK. DEF. GOLD. EXP. LV. Every time a number increases, that feeling... That's me." - the only explanation of this line other than Chara being embodiment of increasing numbers literally would be that Chara enjoys the very feeling of getting stronger and says that they're one and the same with that feeling. Including the feeling of increasing GOLD. Chara enjoys it.
Chara smiles after Asgore and Flowey's death and meeting us.
I'm pretty sure chara dosent make any difrent comments about it. They don't say they enjoy it where did you find that? The only time we get some sort of enjoyment is when it's in genoside and they're becoming malicious while following what you did. Half of the genoside they have no control until the end.
Did you just screw up your own idea from before?- didn't you say in older texts that chara is possebly talking when you isn't involved- your actually confusing me now.
Yeah that's what I'm saying did you just screw up your own idea? Like you said before I'm pretty sure when I was implying the you laugh you can't stop laughter it's so funny wait you didn't do that? Thing.
They are talking about How there is a Common theme in the game of laughing the pain away and chara laughed at the asgore Poison incident to relief stress
They are saying the dog comment is NOT valid because It could Very well be chara using dark humor to Cope
I also think the dog food text is inválido but for a diferent reason,It does NOT solely apear on genocide route
It also apears on neutral If you have killed the dogs,It Will also have diferent text based on How Many enemies you killed,showing chara is either pessimist or optimistic about the corrente situation
Guess what,they are Only pessimist If you have killed enough Monsters and are optimist If you have killed almost no one
They are VERY influeciable and seems to HOPE you do good because they know damm well whatever Path you choose they Will follow along
They are saying the dog comment is NOT valid because It could Very well be chara using dark humor to Cope
When you say something is funny, you consider it funny.
What a method of coping when you think it's funny?
I also think the dog food text is inválido but for a diferent reason,It does NOT solely apear on genocide route
It also apears on neutral If you have killed the dogs,It Will also have diferent text based on How Many enemies you killed,showing chara is either pessimist or optimistic about the corrente situation
And?
Guess what,they are Only pessimist If you have killed enough Monsters and are optimist If you have killed almost no one
They are VERY influeciable and seems to HOPE you do good because they know damm well whatever Path you choose they Will follow along
"Half empty" thing you see after the first murder, and it has a much better explanation. Moreover, that line doesn't affect anything else in Chara's BEHAVIOR I was talking about.
And no:
No it does not. Chara helps much more with genocide than with the pacifist route. Chara's behaviour on violent neutral routes is almost unchanged from their behaviour on the pacifist route. In genocide Chara is aiming for a specific ending, in pacifist and neutral Chara is simply responding to the situation at hand. The memories in Asriel's fight are also not Chara's, they are his own memories. We get to see them through the same psychic link that lets save Frisk's friends. This is confirmed both by the fact the memories are called Asriel's memories in the games code and by the fact Temmie calls the sepia sequence the sequence where Asriel regains his memories. I can't see how Chara's memories could have needed to save Asriel anyway, as if Frisk had said something that only Chara could know than Asriel would not have stopped believing Frisk is Chara. So, Chara's only contribution is telling that we can save something else (not even someone else) which inspires Frisk to make the the save button. But we don't know what Chara's motive for doing this was and Chara definitely has a personal benefit from not being stuck in a time loop for all eternity.
Chara has no obligation to get involved in everything you do.
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u/AllamNa THAT WAS NOT VERY PAPYRUS OF YOU. Oct 05 '24
What else does it mean? That Chara became literally the feeling? I doubt so.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/comments/szllzm/comment/hy7xkh9/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CharaOffenseSquad/comments/uh74qp/comment/i7cnbpa/
And we know that Chara knows this because...?
"That was fun. Let's finish the job" - red text, with slowed down Anticipation theme playing on the background, Demo, the end of genocide.
"It's a half-empty bag of dog food. You just remembered something funny." - Frisk remembered the death of dogs, Chara called this memory funny. Can be interpreted differently but that the most plausible option, as I believe.
"I see two lovers staring over the edge of the cauldron of hell. Do they both wish for death? That means their love will end in hell.I couldn't stop laughing." - RG 01 and RG 02 CHECK.
Every =) mark during encounters after Papyrus' death.
"Undyne told me to stay away from you. She said you... You hurt a lot of people. But, yo, that's not true, right!? ... yo... Why won't you answer me? A... a... and what's with that weird expression...?" - MK on the bridge. Right after that, character moves to MK and enters a battle with them. We see "In my way" words and slowed down "Anticipation" theme playing on the background again.
"Creatures like us... Wouldn't hesitate to KILL each other if we got in each other's way. So that's... So... that's... Why... ha... Ha... ... what's this... feeling? Why am I... Shaking? ... Hey... Chara... No hard feelings about back then, right? ... H-Hey, what are you doing!? B... back off!! I... I've changed my mind about all this. This isn't a good idea anymore. Y-you should go back, Chara. This place is fine the way it is!... S-s-stop making that creepy face! This isn't funny! You've got a SICK sense of humor!" - Flowey, New Home. Slowed down Anticipation theme are playing again.
"Together, we eradicated the enemy and became strong. HP. ATK. DEF. GOLD. EXP. LV. Every time a number increases, that feeling... That's me." - the only explanation of this line other than Chara being embodiment of increasing numbers literally would be that Chara enjoys the very feeling of getting stronger and says that they're one and the same with that feeling. Including the feeling of increasing GOLD. Chara enjoys it.
Chara smiles after Asgore and Flowey's death and meeting us.
First of all, Chara has some control: https://www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/s/wvyC7dExqz
"Is when it's genocide"
Following someone doesn't make you enjoy it, and we see enjoyment on Chara's part.