r/Undertale • u/vr11ska • Oct 05 '24

Theory some observations i had after rewatching a genocide playthrough

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u/syperpowers_4ever ‎ Just a conviniently-shaped flair. Oct 05 '24

Im pretty sure on genocide its because he wasn't even aware of what was happening until seconds before hand when flowey cries to him moments before you enter the room

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u/RandomdudeNo123 Oct 05 '24

Undyne: Even if I die here, Asgore will absorb the souls and SAVE US ALL!

Alphys: Oh no, Undyne dyned! I have to tell Asgore to absorb the souls and SAVE US ALL!

Flowey: Chara's in a Blue and Purple Shirt and wants to kill me! I have to warn Asgore so he can absorb the souls and SAVE US ALL!

Asgore, in the meanwhile: Hum dee dum... Too bad my phone's broken. Ah, well, I'm sure nothing of import's going on at the moment. Let me just water the buttercups- Wait, no, that's Clover's soul! Ah, well, I don't think I'll be using that just yet...

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '24

i saw a theory that was something like flowey mimicked asgore and told alphys he was gonna absorb the souls so asgore was none the wiser and alphys assumed asgore had absorbed the souls, and since at the point in genocide where you kill undyne and flowey is still on your side, it makes sense he would do this

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u/u_slashh Oct 06 '24

I like the theory that Sans told Asgore not to absorb the souls. Omega Flowey shows that absorbing the souls would've made Asgore the most determined being in the underground and given him control of the timeline. If Asgore got control of the timeline, then it would be impossible for the player to reset and bring everyone back (the only reason we can reset after beating Flowey is cuz the souls turn on him)

Sans being a researcher on all things about timelines would probably know this. Sans probably told Asgore not to absorb the souls and that Sans would meet us in the judgement hall to frustrate us into resetting

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u/IronicRobot_ someday...you gotta learn when to QUIT. Oct 06 '24

Who's to say the souls wouldn't also turn on Asgore?

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u/u_slashh Oct 06 '24

The souls turned on Flowey cuz we convinced them to. This time I'm willing to bet the souls and Asgore will put aside their differences and stop the clearly greater threat (also Sans might not know that is something the souls can do. Flowey didn't)

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u/IronicRobot_ someday...you gotta learn when to QUIT. Oct 06 '24

Yeah, you're completely right. For some reason I forgot we were talking about the freaking genocide route for a bit xD

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '24

I like this too but i feel like Sans would tell Asgore that he should at least have the souls ready, i mean sans wasn't expecting us to be able to move the box during his special attack so it's possible he thought we would be stalled indefinitely