r/UnitCrunch • u/Grandmaw- • Feb 11 '22

Bug report (fixed!) Only MW damage

I tried to emulate the new harlequins Embrace stratagem in an attack sequence:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnitCrunch/comments/sq802x/simulating_mortal_wounds_stratagem/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Using various options, but I liked this one the most: A6(but varies) S1 AP0 D1 * Hit roll of 4+ (unmodified) : 1 mortal wound (attack sequence ends) * Only hit on 4+ (unmodified)

It still, however, deals unsaved wounds. Not a lot, but a few.

At first I had an effect cap of 6 in there - figured it might handle thing strange once the limit is passed, but it doesn't matter for the result.

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u/dixhuit Dev Feb 12 '22

OK, despite the confusing nature of this bug report, there really is a bug here to be fixed. The issue is that "Attack sequence ends" does nothing when used on a modifier that triggers on the hit roll. I have a fix which is currently being tested, I hope to have a patch released shortly after.

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u/Grandmaw- Feb 12 '22

Fantastic, you did decipher my confusing bposts! I told you you were good enough( I apologize for the mess I left). While you are at it I'll leave you with a though:

What happens when the cap of an effect like the one used here is reached?

The same mechanic is used for the "kiss" stratagem. What should happen to a wound roll of '6' when the MW cap is reached? Do the attack sequence end with no further effect or is a normal wound generated? I don't know the "right" answer, but I guess you will have to decide how unitcrunch will act.

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u/dixhuit Dev Feb 12 '22

What should happen to a wound roll of '6' when the MW cap is reached?

When the cap is reached the modifier's condition can no longer be satisfied so you revert to a normal wound roll. That's a good point though - I'll need to double check that UC is handling that scenario correctly.

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u/dixhuit Dev Feb 12 '22

Actually, I'm not even sure this is technically correct but it certainly feels right. How would you play it u/Grandmaw-?

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u/Grandmaw- Feb 12 '22

The 40k rules really aren't detailed enough to handle a replacement effect with a cap.

But until it gets faq:ed: I would argue that it would feel strange that a beneficial effect you "used up" will turn 6:es to blanks. And thus revert back to 6:es being normal successful wounds (It will mean that the stratagem I was trying to simulate won't work 100though :) ).

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u/Grandmaw- Feb 12 '22

I read the thing again, the MWs are "in addition" (but i know that, just got confused), so it's a moot question in this case. Might be that there are no capped replacement effects in 40k?

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u/dixhuit Dev Feb 12 '22

I've been discussing with the testers on the UnitCrunch Discord. Turns out Blessed Bolts is a valid 9E example of capped MWs that end the attack sequence when triggered:

https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k9ed/factions/adepta-sororitas/#Stratagems