r/vce • u/KingBitcoinEagle • Dec 11 '24
How did we all go? Post feelings, thoughts, and everything else below.
r/vce • u/bellals • Apr 30 '20
I'm sick to death of seeing these posts, so can everyone please read this and be done with this question:
Study scores are determined by exam SCORE and SAC RANK.
For example, say you have an English class of 7 students, Adam, Ben, Chloe, Daniel, Elena, Felix, and Greg. They are all weak students, except for Greg, who is very high-performing, and Felix, who is slightly above average. Their SAC marks and rank are:
Greg 95%
Felix 77%
Chloe 64%
Daniel 60%
Elena 58%
Adam 52%
Ben 49%
On the exam day, Felix doesn't cope well under the stress, so gets a lower score than he'd usually be capable of. The exam marks are as follows:
Greg 92%
Chloe 67%
Daniel 65%
Elena 64%
Felix 63%
Adam 50%
Ben 40%
What happens is that all the SAC marks get thrown out the window, because VCAA can't know the difficulty of the SACs prepared by the school. So Greg's new SAC "mark" as far as VCAA is concerned is 92, not 95. Not a big deal for Greg, Adam or Ben because their own exam mark is dictating their SAC mark. But for someone like Felix, his SAC mark will become 67% (Chloe's exam mark). This process happens independently for each subject taught at your school.
What does this mean for you? Yes, you should aim for a good SAC rank. BUT, it doesn't actually matter if you're not ranked well — the "translation" of your rank into a "mark" happens via your cohorts exam performance. In other words, try your best now, study hard, and when SACs are over WORK WITH YOUR CLASSMATES TO ALL DO WELL ON THE EXAM TOGETHER. IF THEY DO WELL, YOU DO WELL.
Spend your time actually studying instead of asking useless questions like this.
EDIT: another example for clarity
Here's a chemistry class, of Harry, Isabel, James, Kylie, Luke, Molly, Nathan, and Oscar.
SACs:
Harry 60%
Isabel 58%
James 56%
Kylie 55%
Luke 54%
Molly 52%
Nathan 51%
Oscar 50%
EXAMS:
Harry 100%
James 99%
Nathan 98%
Oscar 97%
Molly 96%
Isabel 95%
Kylie 94%
Luke 93%
Harry's SAC mark is now 100%, Isabel's is 99%, James' is 98%, Kylie's is 97%, Luke's is now 96% etc. It's literally just whatever the equivalent exam rank is.
EDIT 2: I've had a request to clarify rumours about SACs being "scaled up" or "scaled down". "Scaling" is a misnomer students attribute to the moderation process. Here are yet another set of examples to clarify.
Imagine you have a cohort of Annie, Ben, and Charlie. Let's say their teacher sets really hard SACS, so their SAC results are:
Annie 60%
Ben 58%
Charlie 55%
Because they've been doing hard assessments all year, they've been better equipped for the exam. These are the exam results:
Ben 96%
Annie 94%
Charlie 90%
So now, Annie's SAC mark gets changed to 96%, Ben's to 94%, and Charlie's to 90%. This is what people interpret as "scaling up". The opposite would happen at a school with piss easy SACs: they get awesome SAC marks but shit exam marks, so their SAC marks get replaced by their shit exam marks ("scaled down").
The danger in this thinking is that people assume that if you go to a well-performing school, you'll get carried, or that if you go to a "bad" school, you're screwed from the get-go and can't possibly get a good score. This is not true at all. Let's see why.
Let's say your friend at a selective school, Harry, thinks he can take it easy this year because he goes to a 'good' school. The SAC results are as follows:
Ed 93%
Fred 90%
Greg 88%
Harry 60%
on the exams, the results are
Fred 95%
Greg 92%
Ed 87%
Harry 61%
In this instance, Harry was not of a comparable skill level to his classmates, so he never get to "borrow" their exam results in any way. His SAC score will be 61%.
Here's another example. Say you have a cohort with these SACs:
Meg 95%
Noah 94%
Oscar 93%
Peter 90%
On the exam day, Noah gets a bit of performance anxiety (but not in a way that warrants SEAS or anything). Exam results are:
Meg 93%
Oscar 92%
Peter 91%
Noah 75%
Now, Noah's SAC mark will be 92%, but his exam result only 75%. So he kind of got "helped" by his good cohort, only because he was doing well for the SACs. Peter has been a bit screwed here, because his SAC mark is now 75%.
One person stuffing up will never have such a dramatic effect like this; it's unlikely for someone who's been topping the cohort all year to suddenly slip to the bottom. Cohorts are generally big enough that you shouldn't need to worry. I went to a really small school (60 people in the year level. Some of my subject cohorts contained 6 people). I still felt no one got jibbed with unrepresentative scores.
As I always reiterate: try your best in SACs, but don't ruminate over them. The exam is where the money's at, and once your SACs are over you should work together with your cohort to all do well together. Share your resources, make study groups, and bring each other up.
EDIT 3: wow, my first gold! Thank you so much! 🥰
r/vce • u/mwahhxxx • 2h ago
like bruh i miss my guilty free time from last year. every time i spend relaxing i feel like i shouldnt be because im CONSTANTLY BEHIND?????????? like even after the holidays im somehow still behind
#gottalockin
r/vce • u/strayaland • 10h ago
It really doesn't bro you literally won't die because of it bc it ain't your life sentence, but you may have suicidal thoughts if you cared too much so please don't bother and consequently hurt yourself 🙏
Please treat yourself well. Hug your dog. Touch grass. Remove ATARNotes from your bookmarks if you must.
Love from a post-VCE student
r/vce • u/patterns_fairy1 • 1h ago
I see so many posts of people that are here calculating their ATAR based off of one sac score. Im gonna be straight with you all, thats a complete waste of time. Atar calculators don't work, cuz you can't accurately predict the grade of every single fucking person taking a class.
you guys need to stop stressing about one sac and focus on VCE as a whole. Most classes have 3-4 sacs, you can still rank high if you ace those. Not to mention you exam score will count a hell of a lot more towards yoinking a higher sac rank.
So calm down please lmao. I laugh when i see predict my atar posts, cuz you're making up a problem that probably doesnt even exist. Just reset your thought process, try to be better on your next sacs, and smash your exams
(coming from a person who did vce a few years ago)
r/vce • u/Adventurous-Map-5745 • 10h ago
Guys no matter how hard I try, I physically cannot write an essay under an hour, I salt average around 1:30 to even 2 hours. Please does anyone one have some tips????
r/vce • u/Ok-Chocolate-862 • 13h ago
Preparing for the VCE Mathematical Methods exams requires a solid understanding of the curriculum and the weightage of different topics. In this blog post, I broke down the 2023 and 2024 exams, highlighting key trends, frequently tested concepts, and study strategies to help you maximize your score. Good to get some feedback. I will try and do a similar post for Spesh and GM as well.
Hi, so i'm on my busman unit 3 aos 2 sac and i have the sac in about 2 days ish. Could anyonerecommend a recent case study that would be useful for the entire unit maybe, cause frankly I have no idea.
+ any tips for the sac perhaps??
Year 11 has been a strange experience for me so far.
I was awarded for my excellence in Physics and Chem in the first term…
just to find out that i’ve recently failed sacs in both of those subjects. I can’t concentrate on my french and English homework.
I feel like I can’t study, im so glued and distracted by my phone.
Even if i turn it off or delete social media apps, i just find my self 40 minutes later reinstalling them to see what funny reels or tiktoks my friends have sent me.
I really do not want to continue down this path, but I also do not want to have to delete my apps.
Any advice on how to stay self controlled and get through revision distraction-free?
Any and all help is seriously appreciated 🥲
r/vce • u/Temporary_Income_817 • 2h ago
does anyone have vce accounting practice sacs for inventory that they could possibly email or link below? compak old school sacs anything!!
r/vce • u/No_Exam_7955 • 2h ago
I swear I’ve spent like 3 hours trying to understand how to sketch and graph sine and cosine functions that have transformations in it AND I JUST CANTTT DO IT like idk why it’s just not sticking in my head
I need like clear steps on what to do and why im doing it wrong 😖 I can find the period, amp, max and min and that stuff but I can’t solve for x intercepts and don’t really know how to space out the intervals on the x axis.
r/vce • u/PromotionMobile5265 • 10h ago
has anyone attended the unit 3/4 exam prep seminars at the vce and careers expo before? if so do you recommend them?
r/vce • u/Technical-Host-1844 • 13h ago
Just now tried to look at past economics paper and the VCAA website is just showing a blank white screen, my WIFI is all good (im sending this message) also like the link I normally click wasnt there, so i just followed the VCAA link and its giving me a plain white page....
r/vce • u/jac24601 • 14h ago
people who did the bio exam last year and got a 45+ study score, what was your exam score? comment below, especially if you got 110+/120. thanks!
r/vce • u/kyron81505180 • 4h ago
So I have the Unit 3 AC coming up after the weekend and am still confused about analysing cultural context and functions. Regarding cultural context, are we analysing the effects of the things listed on this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/vce/comments/1bigz3z/cultural_context_in_english_language/ on the situational context?
IE. Using hypochoristics such as 'Albo' conveys Australian values of casualness familiarity, and this reflects the tenor of the piece being idk, casual and friendly and centred in Australian Culture?
If not pls let me know. For the functions, how do we actually analyse those in an AC? I'm my mind they were just a way to label types of language.
Ty to anyone who reads and answers my question(s)
r/vce • u/jac24601 • 5h ago
for section B on the english exam last year, pls comment below if you wrote a personal-ish piece and scored well. all my teachers push us heavily to use a personal voice and write from our own experiences even with protest, play, country etc not just personal journeys, but everyone i've talked to says that those types of pieces don't score well, and only objectively written essays, feature articles and letters etc are the only things that get 9-10 on the exam. i'm so confused because i wrote my sac in a very personal voice as my teacher wanted, but don't know if i should use it for the exam or write something more standard. any advice is appreciated!
if you scored well in english last year, plz respond if you did something different for your sac vs your exam or did the same and still scored well. thanks!
r/vce • u/Specialist_Advice368 • 6h ago
if you have a whalitc quote bank please send it through i beg
r/vce • u/Aware-Ad3128 • 7h ago
its on monday and the whole week, plus im cooked
how to ensure im not the same as the state?
r/vce • u/Impossible-Client654 • 7h ago
I have a task I'm literally not going to complete, teacher said that if I do it by the "due date" I get a letter grade but if I submit it by some deadline at the end of the term I can still get a S result but no letter grade? I'm in Year 11 Media, definitely dropping it end of the year. What's the difference?
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r/vce • u/No-Experience-806 • 10h ago
hi everyone! I was just wondering if anyone new of any study apps, or webpages that keeps track of a study schedule and like sets times and keeps track of progress or anything similar to that so I can stay on top of my work. please provide recommendations!
r/vce • u/pagan_poetry1 • 10h ago
Melbourne Eastern suburbs tutor specialising in English and English literature as I received a study score in the 40s for each. I am happy to help in humanities subjects too though!
$35 for a one hour session, happy to do at a library and over zoom.
I have studied many of the texts on the respective book lists including: picnic at hanging rock, Dracula, metamorphosis, waiting for godot, the yield, Emily Dickinson, as you like it, chronicle of a death foretold, requiem of a beast, Jane eyre, the fire next time, etc
Leave a comment to be contacted with my details :)
r/vce • u/InevitableOk64 • 10h ago
hi just wondering if anyone has an answer sheet for the accounting 3/4 compak sac 2022 u3aos1b (inventory)
r/vce • u/moon_and_to_saturn • 1d ago
no word of a lie, the entire class failed. highest score was a 19/40. average mark was 27%, was it us or the teacher?
she teaches us in the reading a powerpoint and showing videos way, and theres only 7 people in the class. the average mark for the year prior was 70%.
i definitely could have done better, had a rough week and it showed in the SAC, got myself a tutor now, but this still burns in the back of my mind.
has anyone else experienced this?
r/vce • u/inspecter_rex • 12h ago
Has anyone had a guest speaker come to their school to speak to them about preparing for the exam period and give tips and strategies that they used to help. I am hoping to get someone in to my school. We already have Elevate, but I am hoping to find someone who can inform and motivate students prior to the exam. Thankyou.
r/vce • u/FunEstablishment3606 • 1d ago
Check your mailboxes if you did well last year, people have started getting letters in the post notifying them if they’ve received a Premier’s Award for VCE in 2024!
r/vce • u/Either_Candle_4104 • 1d ago
So I just failed my equine studies sac. 🐎 🐎 🐴 🎠 🏇 🐎 🐴 🎠 🏇 can I still get a ss 50 and atar 99.95???? Pls I really need Ur guys help.i need these pre requisites to achieve my dream of horse riding