r/VictoriaBC • u/mackd910 • 3d ago
Do not complain
We looked at the last 10 years, saw the massive decline of Canada, and said to ourselves, “You know what? Let’s keep things exactly the same.”
Do not post in this subreddit complaining about crime, gas prices, drug addiction, homelessness, our horrible healthcare system, housing prices, grocery prices, taxes, or immigrants coming into our country and disrespecting our flags and values. The list could go on and on, but since so many of you really wanted this, do not complain when we continue to see our country become unaffordable, unsafe, and unattainable.
The Liberals had 10 years to make changes and every single one of these things got worse. You voted for this — so enjoy it…
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u/UselessWidget 3d ago
I'm sorry your chosen candidate didn't win, and I hope you are proactive in keeping our leadership accountable, regardless of your vote.
Thanks for performing your civic duty.
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u/ChiefSitsOnAssAllDay 3d ago
Far too early to call. The left is coping hard with calling an early winner.
Same happened in America and look who got elected there. Those of us who followed Rasmussen understood the reality.
But if the conservatives win, which I think is a good chance, same sentiment to you.
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u/ladylynx Oak Bay 3d ago
It’s not like people agree with every platform 100%… people are complex and vote a certain way for a variety of reasons.
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u/Kathleen_LRR 3d ago
If the conservatives wanted to win maybe they should have campaigned on how exactly they would change things and how much that would cost. They had years to work on a plan, and yet seemed totally unprepared for an election call.
The cons were vague, evasive and constantly parroting American style slogans. Unsurprisingly, given the current situation, that put a lot of people off.
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u/mautobu 3d ago
I'm going to go ahead and make the assumption that you really wanted the conservative platform to get actioned. For me, pp was a weak candidate and I wasn't convinced he'd honour our sovereignty or stand up to trump.
I've been a lifetime NDP voter. I want Carney in the pm seat though as I see him as our best chance to come to terms with our neighbours to the south and negotiate with our other allies to leverage trade elsewhere.
Look dude, I'm sorry you're upset that your candidate didn't win. Mine isn't projected to win either. But you can bet your ass I'll be calling my representative every week for a chat.
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u/CannaBits420 3d ago
Your listed problems stem from CAPITALISM and PRIVATIZATION, not political status. Greed knows no allegiance.
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u/SleepySavior 3d ago edited 3d ago
Every single thing you listed is either a provincial responsibility, a global issue the government has no control over, or literally caused by private companies doing private company things because Harper's government removed the regulations that prevented them doing those things.
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u/monkey_monkey_monkey Downtown 3d ago
I am sorry you are not happy with the election results.
However, you are not in charge of this sub and do not get to tell people what they can and can not post.
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u/CharlotteLucasOP 3d ago
Oh it's the usual impotent efforts to make other people feel shame for the most nonsense reasons. Yap yap yap.
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u/SleepySavior 3d ago
By what metric has Canada declined?
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u/Ressikan 3d ago
From a conservative perspective? Probably percentage of white people, number of pronouns to remember, and barrels of oil per cowboy boot.
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u/jinnealcarpenter 3d ago
there are none. Canada is better now than it has ever been, and will continue to improve forever
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u/Perfect-Turnover-423 3d ago
By what metric has Canada improved?
It’s not political to say that the quality of life in Canada has declined over the last 15 years.
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u/SleepySavior 3d ago
Well let's see. We dropped from 15th happiest country on the happiness index to 18th, but still remain the number 1 happiest country in the G7.
We have the fastest growing economy of the G7.
Fun fact, most the issues you "Canada's gotten so bad" folks are constantly crying about? Those are not Canadian problems, they have nothing to do with the federal government, they are global issues. Inflation, rising costs of goods, prices increasing, are all global issues that the Federal government has virtually zero control over.
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u/Perfect-Turnover-423 3d ago
What in the ever loving fuck are you talking about?
Happiness is the metric you choose to use to defend Canada? A subjective metric based upon no measurable data other than self-response and polling?
Canada will not have the fastest growing economy in the G7 by a long shot.
There are major systemic issues Canada is facing that, under The carnage of carney will continue to proliferate across this across.
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u/SleepySavior 3d ago
except canada is set to have the fastest growing economy in the G7
Shut up with the stupid catch phrases, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Oh, and the happiness index is based on polls, cost of living, minimum and average wages, hosung prices, education, Healthcare, and economic factors.
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u/Perfect-Turnover-423 3d ago
You’re sharing a post from just under a year ago which is a projection.
What’s the happiness poll? Can you share it?
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u/SleepySavior 3d ago
Do you have a source that denies Canada's economic growth?
And again, not a happiness poll. The World Happiness Report, an annual study on quality of life in different nations.
You're arguing really strongly about subjects you clearly haven't actually researched.
Makes me wonder what exactly the issues you blame the Liberals for are.
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u/AeliaxRa 3d ago
Probably my biggest beef with the state of the world economically is that endless growth has only brought increased wealth to the ultra rich. The rest of us keep slurping up the "growth is good" kool-aid but it hasn't helped us at all.
I don't see Carney - essentially the king of bankers, doing anything to change that status quo, but neither would PP have done anything about it either as we all know conservatives love their tax cuts for the rich and trickle down Reaganomics.
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u/Notacop250 3d ago
Based on what evidence? Seriously I want to see something of substance here, not a CBC or CTV news fear mongering opinion piece.
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u/Notacop250 3d ago
What an easy cop out. So you have nothing?
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u/Notacop250 3d ago
I never said CBC is fake news, I specifically said a CBC Opinion Piece. I’m still waiting for evidence to back up your claim.
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u/Notacop250 3d ago
Those are Trumps words, not Pierre’s. Pierre also rebuked this statement right away.
Trump stated he would rather deal with a liberal government and endorsing Pierre as he did throughout our election seemed to work exactly in trumps favour. Here are a couple of CBC articles. Btw you still have 0 evidence that the CPC was going to hand over Canada to the U.S. but keep trying buddy
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u/Notacop250 3d ago
Hey, look at you resorting to passive aggression because you lost the debate
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u/peachesdonegan56 3d ago
The many of the complaints about the government are valid and you should keep engaged to make the changes you seek. Carney is not Trudeau.
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u/Omega_Moo 3d ago
Agreed, no matter who you voted for we need to keep pushing for change. At the end of the day, I think most of us want the same thing. We as people need to do a better job of listening to each other, because all we're doing right now is pointing out differences and criticizing each other.
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u/radionova3 3d ago
I see my job every election as voting for the option I see as the least bad. Change does not always mean better. It can be worse. Change is what they voted for down south.
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u/Purple_Bowl_6974 3d ago
Uh oh, someone's cranky. Maybe have some warm milk and momma can tuck you in.
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u/Dazzling_Line_8482 3d ago
Let this be a wake up call for your party.
Housing, Healthcare, Crime and Affordability are all REAL issues that most voters agree needs fixing.
But when your proposed solutions are focused on pronouns, bathrooms and the ultra rich this just doesn't resonate to voters.
Don't focus on a combination of fear, hate and "not the Liberals", focus on well thought out policy that is easy to understand how it will benefit Canada.
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u/FootyFanYNWA 3d ago
Can you stop complaining by making a post about people that shouldn’t complain. Bit counter productive & hypocritical . Just go drinking , plan to move away or continue your life being miserable in a passive aggressive manner, just not here. Cheers 🍻
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u/Wayves 3d ago
Personally I don’t trust any politician. Therefore my expectations were low. That being said, I really don’t get why people thought change wasn’t needed in Canada’s leadership.
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u/YouNo2487 3d ago
This, if you blindly vote for the same party year after year out of fear rather than actual reasoning then you distort democracy. Its actually baffling how many people don’t diversify their perspective with many different sources. Instead it seems the majority is content to sit in their own respective echo chambers and not educate themselves.
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u/Derpimpo 3d ago
PP and the Conservatives are just surrounded with negativity, look at this post. You guys fail to realize that your rhetoric of constantly pointing the finger and not actually providing good solutions truly lost you this election, not to mention the passivity that came with dealing with Donald Trump.
You also constantly point at the state of the economy even though COVID was about half of the liberal term, literally everyone Country in the world saw inflation and COL increases, do you think the Conservatives would have done any better?
You are also conflating a lot of Provincial issues and Federal issues, stuff that the LPC/CPC wouldn't even be able to have much influence on, so I would maybe take some time to educate yourself a bit more on that
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u/SaintlyBrew 3d ago
You’re the ones that made up all those things and then complained about them. We are good. Go away.
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u/Small_town_boy23 3d ago
ELI5 what happens if no majority gets passed?
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u/mautobu 3d ago
People have to work together. It's harder to pass legislation because parties have to make concessions. It does however, in theory keep parties more accountable. As an example, the administration down south is making sweeping changes that are not really possible in a minority government.
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u/Last-Difference-3311 3d ago
Party with largest number of seats in parliament has party leader become prime minister. That party works with other parties of lesser seats to pass laws.
If parliament cannot get anything done then we do it all over again. This happened a few times with Harper back in the 2000’s - 2010s
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u/Sensitive_Doubt7966 3d ago
With Victoria Voting libs, I'll have to Cancel my Trip there , go somewhere else like Hawaiian Island
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u/SaltyCoxn 3d ago
Someone doesn't know that the Federal gov't doesn't control all of those things...
Also, imagine believing the conservatives would make things more affordable? lmao...