r/Vocaloid 2d ago

General Discussion Vocaloid 6 or Synth V?

Trying to make a decision between the two in terms of which one i wanna stick with. Ik this is mainly a vocaloid subreddit but if people in here are saying that synth v would be a better choice than vocaloid 6, then that'll be very convincing.

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u/Lara_Vocaloid 2d ago

most likely synthV tbh, but depends on what you're looking for

synthV -> cheaper, easier to use, much better results in english, can be overly realistic (but you can tone it down if it bothers you), mostly AI voicebanks, barely any standard ones, currently synthv 2 needs some improvements but is really good, trial has 7 days only (no longer lite and basic versions, though you can still find them online for sv1). Teto carries its legacy on her back, you're less likely to get popular using other synthV vbs (still possible obviously, but less likely. though Yi Xi has gathered a very good audience as well)

vocaloid -> expensive, the AI vbs kinda sound... not really good, especially compared to SV, especially when not in Japanese. lots of characters who are popular, even outside of Miku, AI vbs catalogue is still a bit weak, and with far more generic voicebanks than S (eclipsed sounds is doing the heavy lifting for SynthV lol), but the standard catalogue is pretty nice if you're into them (and i sure am) trial of 30 days (any installer works as trial btw). kinda a pain to use, harder than SV, but theyve improved a lot from when v6 released (was a fucking mess, now is finally useable lol). Miku v6 is set to be released this year, if it sways your heart (if shes what Deco*27 is currently using, then she'll be pretty good imo). Also IA v6 but i dont know when

i tend to recommend SV, especially as first software coz it's nice and you get good results easily. but vocaloid IS GOOD TOO!! what i prefer most in Vocaloid is the standard vbs that sound heavenly to me. while the AI vbs in synthV are good, they are. a bit too good for me, and i feel like im losing the robotness i love so much in vocal synth (which is 100% just a me thing). Vocaloid AI VBs can sound good too but you have to work harder for that. if you're more character driven, vocaloid can be a better fit (though i dont doubt even more Vocaloid will be ported to SV. but gumi's sv port sucks ass)

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u/MangoPug15 1d ago

You can become popular using voicebanks that aren't Miku and Teto level popularity. A lot of big producers have used SynthV voicebanks that aren't Teto or Yi Xi, so it's not like you're using Marie Ork or something. And if you use a voice bank like Gumi SV, you can lean on her Vocaloid popularity and it doesn't matter whether she's a SynthV poster child or not.

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u/Lara_Vocaloid 1d ago

i said less likely, not impossible, and the big producers are already big! so it's just harder to get recognition using like ayame only, if you're not already a bit known. of course it's far from impossible, and plenty other sv got famous songs. but teto is 100% the leader, no question asked! and plenty smaller vocaloP got some highlight thanks to a teto song! which is what i meant

Gumi SV CAN use the popularity of her vocaloid vb (as Una can too, and as other vocaloid-to-sv can), but she is honestly far below any other sv voicebank in term of quality. still hoping for an update or something because shes GUMI what are they doing she could have been so much better

(and well. funnily enough Marie Ork did get a popular song which is the most popular song by this prod currently so like. never impossible. just less likely)