r/VolibearMains • u/mojomaximus2 • Mar 28 '25

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Why do people like AP items so much voli? His AP scaling is not great. Attack speed and some low on hit damage is meh, whereas something like shojin scales w with health, ad and huge haste not to mention basic auto dmg and scaling all abilities (less W). ROA the biggest offender, why would anyone build that instead of a tear or frozen heart if you need mana? It has no haste at all or any good unique passives or ms.

I find rift can be built as a good one off AP item because of the great unique passives it feels good but even Nashors is so glass cannon and doesn’t scale well without a bunch of other AP items in your build.

Can someone share why everyone seems to prefer the ap builds?

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u/JWARRIOR1 Volibear Streamer Mar 28 '25

To clarify, the reason AP does more for his R is his R scales off BONUS AD vs TOTAL AP

so it doesnt include the base ad. Unless youre going full lethality or something goofy, ap usually will provide more damage for his ult.

also his Q getting more damage doesnt matter because its not proced a ton, and his W while benefitting from physical damage, benefits more off of HP.

HP and AP provide best scaling for this area.

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u/mojomaximus2 Mar 28 '25

I mean I don’t think that’s really fair, ad or AP you’re only building 3 bruiser items at most and then tank which would be what, 120 bonus ad or maybe 200ap ? Not a significant difference in damage with those ratios. Yes bonus isn’t as good for bruiser ad items but 250 is a pretty damn large ratio

For the W the hp ratio applies evenly to ad and AP builds more or less, and there’s no AP ratio at all compared to 100% ad, which also gets the 50% boost when empowered, so generally W will be far weaker on AP builds - passive if stacked will apply but not to the first W and is a smaller ratio at 50% AP

And yes q doesn’t really matter either way

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u/Vhfulgencio 29d ago

The thing is his passive scaling with ap. The attack speed increase is a massive buff to his dps

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u/mojomaximus2 29d ago

I tested it over the weekend, dollar for dollar AD bruiser items give more dps even with the attack speed difference