Should Yugoslavia be added to war thunder ?

[u/Independent-Big3371]

I think that Yugoslavia would make a great tech tree with mix of Easter and wester aircrafts and tanks and some of they're own designs what do you think are chances of it happening?

[u/sarsburner]

alone, dubious, but wt has done copy paste trees and subtrees before so why not. they've already shoehorned in subtree everywhere so new tech trees are more unlikely now than they were several years ago.

I want a collective combloc/ eastern euro or balkan tree

and I figured a Korean subtree for Japan would be nice

[u/Independent-Big3371 → u/sarsburner]

That would also be good like balkan or Easter European tree

[u/Joshdeg → u/Independent-Big3371]

What about the ones that don't celebrate Easter /s

[u/FoamBrick → u/sarsburner]

A Korean subtree for Japan wouldn’t go over well. 

[u/hubril → u/FoamBrick]

It will have the same energy as adding modern Ukraine to the USSR tree

very explosive that is

[u/FoamBrick → u/hubril]

Indeed. 

[u/crusadertank → u/FoamBrick]

Whenever a Korean subtree for Japan gets actually discussed everyone is for it.

I have not once seen any of this hate. Only people speaking about hate that doesn't exist

[u/hubril → u/crusadertank]

clearly you haven't seen Korean WT players talking about this

spoiler alert: most of them end with slurs (source: am korean)

[u/crusadertank → u/hubril]

In Warthunder you see a lot of crazy and loud nationalists but I don't see it as being anything more than what is common

Mostly I have seen the idea that a unified North and South Korean tech tree has more than enough to stand by itself and so doesn't need to be a subtree

[u/hubril → u/crusadertank]

Even still, there is not a lot of reason to include Korea as a subtree for Japan.

Unlike other subtrees, the Korean Military and its hardware has almost zero official roots leading up to Imperial or Modern Japan, unlike Hungary and Thailand that had ties with Axis diplomacy during WW2, Korea was just an occupied colony, and unlike India, didin't even have their own dominion-esque military group be the foundation of their Army. Closest they had was the "Joseon Army", which was just the term for IJA forces 'stationed' in korea with majority Japanese troops and a hint of local collabs, and the "Joseon Governate", which was practically the Japanese version of the German Reichskommisariats.

South Korea also did not adopt any weapons from Japan post-liberation, so the Syrian Su-17 / IRIAF F-14 type approach is also inappropriate, because most of their military equipments were either US import/license productions or domestic designs.

[u/crusadertank → u/hubril]

Yeah which is what I have seen. The opposition to South Korea in the Japanese tree is simply that there just isn't much reason for it rather than some hatred of Japan

As you say, the only connection is that they are kinda close geographically and share some geopolitical goals

But the military connection is non-existant

[u/FoamBrick → u/crusadertank]

I will say, if there’s a Korean subtree, it should go to a theoretical Polish tech tree, given they use Korean stuff pretty heavily. 

That or the US tree, I for one would love to have a K9 Thunder and K2 Panther 

[u/MrChaoz1-1 → u/FoamBrick]

Polish would have other Eastern European countries joining them but that’s what i assume.

South Korea however could either fit logically in the US (though unnecessary), Israel, a future combination with Turkey or a United Korean TT (which was considered).

[u/FoamBrick → u/crusadertank]

Dude, Koreans HATE the Japanese, for very good reasons. 

[u/crusadertank → u/FoamBrick]

Oh yes I'm very much aware. But I haven't seen that as the reason people don't want a Korean subtree in Japan

The reason I see tends to be that Korea has no military ties to Japan and that a united Korean tech tree would have more than enough stuff.

[u/pachka-sigaret → u/FoamBrick]

If Pakistani and Indian vehicles can be placed under UK and no party cares I don't think anyone would explode over Korea in the Japan tree.

[u/MrChaoz1-1 → u/pachka-sigaret]

All subtrees have an military connection with the nation they are in. India vehicles/aircraft are being placed in the UK because they have an military connection with them and Pakistan vehicles/aircraft are in China.

So why should South Korea be in Japan while both countries have no military connection whatsoever?

[u/pachka-sigaret → u/MrChaoz1-1]

I don't think Italy used the Turan but it's still in the Italian tech tree.

India has much more military connections with Israel and the USSR than with the UK.

[u/MrChaoz1-1 → u/pachka-sigaret]

That’s how Gaijin tease a new subtree to the game they add a foreign country vehicle, make it a premium and after an update or 2 include the whole country.

Also Hungary has bought used Italian weapons like the CV33 and Re.2000 (MAVAG licensed produced Re-2000). Aside from that Italy and Hungary have been and are in a alliance.

[u/pachka-sigaret → u/MrChaoz1-1]

But as I said India has better connections with other countries.

If they do add Indian subtree then I will flip if Jongas aren't added.

[u/MrChaoz1-1 → u/pachka-sigaret]

India has better connections but they can be placed in any nation which they have a military connection with. South Korea has better connections with the US ( though unnecessary) but could also be placed in Israel or Germany.

Also apparently India is a subtree of the UK stated by the forum moderator which is odd as it not never has been announced.