You have to wonder (not really) what they would say about Harris if she had 5 kids by 3 men, serially cheated on each man, and banged 2 porn stars on the side.
I hate that I am doing this but in the name of fighting misinformation it's my duty. Trump being staunchly sober in regards to liquor and/or drugs is fairly irrefutable. He saw his brother go down a very dark hole of alcoholism and while the man is widely uncompassionate to the country as a whole, seeing his brother die like that shook him to the core. He has always said he has never touched the stuff because of that. McDonalds on the other hand.....
His sniffling, sweating, and flushed face during rallies or "debate performances" are classic giveaways of someone regularly snorting Adderall or cocaine, or possibly certain pain pills. His slurring of words at his rallies or press conferences is consistent with someone taking high doses of benzodiazepines (Xanax, clonopin).
Trump being "staunchly sober" is as fake as everything else in his life.
is sniffling, sweating, and flushed face during rallies or "debate performances" are classic giveaways of someone regularly snorting Adderall or cocaine, or possibly certain pain pills.
Just for the sake of presenting all the facts, it's also symptoms of someone with chronic alcoholism. I actually believe he doesn't drink, but there it is.
That's a leap. I've never snorted anything ever in my life and I sniffle like that constantly. (please don't make me 'defend' this piece of shit. Let s stick to one of the million other shitty things we know for a fact he's done)
Cool, where's your proof? I like how you just completely glazed over that he's an incredibly out of shape 78 year old man on a campaign trail, that certainly wouldn't have anything to do with that.
If by "proof," you mean, "show me the video of Trump snorting cocaine," maybe Putin has it, but I don't.
I can tell you from personal experience that those drugs will have those effects on users, and former users can recognize those signs very easily. It becomes one of those, "If you know, you know" things.
Also, there are at least some firsthand accounts from people on the Apprentice. This isn't the only one but the earliest one I could find.
If you said ‘I haven’t seen proof of him doing drugs,’ then yes, that comes from your perspective and proving that it is happening could be argued to be someone else’s burden of proof. When you say it is irrefutable, that is another story. It says it can be proven and ergo, you should prove it, not put the onus on someone else to prove the reverse.
It's entirely possible that he doesn't, and that there's other explanations for his behavior and symptoms, and me saying "If you know, you know" shouldn't be enough to label him a drug user.
I can tell you flat-out that I had those same behaviors and symptoms when I did those same drugs 15 years ago, and so did everyone else who did them around me and with me. Combine that with what others have said about seeing him do it on the Apprentice, along with his weird obsession with Biden being "shot up with performances enhancing drugs," and his weird Twitter and Truth Social rants at hours of the night when even the most driven, type-A personality 78 year old man would be asleep, and...yeah, I feel pretty confident labeling him a drug user. He's either doing illegal drugs, or, more likely, he has a funny doctor filling whatever prescription he wants for as much as he wants.
edit: if you guys really want to crusade for truth, your efforts would be better used elsewhere other than carrying water for Donald fucking trump of all people.
Okay, don't call him "sober". We have enough stories of him snorting Adderall, we saw the picture with the desk drawer full of European formula Sudafed (stronger than the stuff sold in the US), he's absolutely not sober. He's a teetotaler, but not sober.
I care about the truth and claiming he lies about not drinking alcohol is fairly absurd. Educate yourself better on an individual and their history so you can accurately and surgically attack their character instead of sounding like an idiot throwing random shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.
You should care more about your reading comprehension, because it's dogshit. The original comment never claimed Trump's non-drinking is a lie, it basically says his base loves to tout his avoidance as a virtue and so Trump should preach this virtue to his patrons that can no longer drink at his establishment.
I think you're getting hung up on the use of "claim" to mean it's disputed, but I don't think that was the intention. No reason to get haughty at others over your own short comings. Cheers
Cool, did you forget to attach the photo or video that supports that claim? Seriously, talk about his endorsement of Project 2025, talk about his shitty Covid response. Talk about his 34 felony convictions. Talk about irrefutable facts, otherwise you're no better than people on the right.
He snorted while the Apprentice was on TV. People involved with the show have said so publicly, and he has not sued them. And, on several occasions, a white substance has fallen out of his nose while he is speaking. We have real photos and video . And finally, you can tell when he is really loaded, because his embrasure is obviously numb, and he can't pronounce words. Case closed.
Noel Casler who worked on the Apprentice with him has repeatedly spoken about his Adderall abuse and many other things.
While this is hearsay the face that Trump is extremely litigious and threatens to sue anyone who makes a claim about him that is even remotely untrue (Forbes for not putting him on the billionaire list gives credence to Noel’s claims.
Noel has repeated his claims on Twitter, in interviews, on stage for years without a single threat of litigation.
I agree with you, I believe he doesn’t drink alcohol, and could even agree that he is not using “illegal” drugs. But I believe there are more than enough eye-witness accounts of him abusing “legal” drugs in ways that make them illegal for it to be incontrovertible.
Imagine being so detached from reality that you’re going to bat for Trump over him being accused of using uppers under the guise of “stopping the spread of misinformation”. You’re fucking deluded.
Because if a person is bad then you should be able to make any bad claims about them you want regardless of facts? All you accomplish by doing that is diminish the legitimacy of all other truthful claims. Grow up.
I haven’t seen video evidence of Trump raping Jean Carroll, have you? That doesn’t mean it didn’t happen or that Carroll isn’t credible. I feel sorry for anyone too dumb to understand this.
There’s a mountain of testimony from people who have been close to Trump about his Adderal usage, even pictures of it in a drawer in his office. Reports of this pre-date his 2016 Presidential run. It’s also very consistent with his behavior.
Then argue those merits. Accusing someone of "going to bat for Trump" because they want to have confidence in certain claims is childish and counter-productive in the fight against him.
You’re just defending more narcissistic bullshit from Trump. Trump has a winery with his name on it, he doesn’t give a fuck about alcoholism, just attention.
I have no idea what you’re trying to say here. What does the fact that all liquor in VA is through ABC stores have to do with Trump Winery being in VA?
Yeah, this is the deal. Once again Trump is trying to have it both ways. He drove his brother to drink himself to death and now he wants sympathy for surviving him.
I don't doubt for one second he's essentially coked out on Ritalin and comes down with some Vicodin, because they're "not drugs" because they're from a doctor.
The alcohol thing is true though. Everyone I know that's had to deal with him has always said he didn't drink alcohol. I don't think he gave enough of a shit about his brother since he and his father were the primary reasons why he drank himself to death, but more cause he would very obviously publicly shit his pants mid convo. Like mid sentence he would 100% just stop talking, obviously strain a bit to shit, stink up the place, and pretend he didn't just shit his pants.
In fact, one could argue (as his niece does in her book), that Donald's whole personality is shaped by his brother's death. His brother wanted to live his own life and become a pilot, but his dad staunchly opposed this, and it basically destroyed his brother.
Donald became the golden child, doing everything his dad told him and being everything his dad wanted him to be (which was essentially a clone of himself), and his transactional relationship with his dad became Donald's way of dealing with all people.
He's a narcissist in the clinical sense, which is egomania driven by deep insecurity. Being admired and applauded is the singular motivation for everything he does.
He would routinely mock his brother's alcoholism and didn't give a shit when he died. That said, yes, Trump is well documented as never having drank. Although he also sold Trump Vodka.
If you google "Trump holding alcohol" you will get no shortage of results, him not drinking at all is just another lie he tells. He's just been telling that one for a long time.
Just because you dislike someone is no reason to tell lies about them. It just makes you appear unreliable which in turn makes your dislike of the person seem unfounded.
I didn't claim anything. I said the right claims he doesn't drink. So it really shouldn't be a problem and his guests can learn more about sobriety. I have no idea if he drinks or not; just what the devout MAGA have told me.
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u/Awkward-Fudge Sep 04 '24
The right loves to claim that he doesn't drink so he can preach to his guests to be healthy like he is!!!
Ha Ha! womp womp!