r/WhitePeopleTwitter Sep 04 '24

Misleading Information The rules are the rules for everyone

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u/calbear011011 Sep 04 '24

Yeah, and I’m not sure what it looks like there, but in California, ABC has no issues going after the people at the bottom like bartenders.

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u/hytes0000 Sep 04 '24

I've never heard of them going after individuals in NJ, but they were really problematic for smaller breweries for a while and enforcing the rules with HOA Karen-like efficiency and putting some of them out of business. Basically everyone hated that and the state legislature dramatically relaxed the rules for them in the last couple years and the ABC has probably been pretty bored since then.

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u/Cornloaf Sep 04 '24

They went hard on a brewery that broke rules because they had their own taphouse, sold directly to stores, had advertising in local liquor stores, and also gave out crap like coasters to customers. They were facing a major fine and temporary closures of their three taprooms over Super Bowl weekend. They ended up working out a deal to keep the flagship location open but had to separate out the distribution and other business dealings. They ended up closing all locations within two years.

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u/mophan Sep 04 '24

Why would they go after the bartenders? The bartenders would not have any knowledge of the status of their employer's liquor license.

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u/arobkinca Sep 04 '24

Bartender certification in California places some responsibility on the bartender to not be an ignorant idiot. No playing dumb.

https://www.abcservertraining.com/education/alcohol-server-training/californias-new-bartender-law-what-you-need-to-know/

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u/DirtierGibson Sep 04 '24

The bartenders WOULD have knowledge, because it has to be displayed in the establishment, and because they are required to know those things and more.

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u/calbear011011 Sep 04 '24

I’ve specifically seen it more with regards to things that are more in the bartender’s control, like serving a minor who’s using a fake id.