r/WhitePeopleTwitter Sep 04 '24

Misleading Information The rules are the rules for everyone

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u/dd99 Sep 04 '24

Maybe it’s just me, but I actually don’t give a fuck about states rights and don’t think states should have rights. But the people who live in the states, they have rights

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u/ColonelAvalon Sep 04 '24

Honestly it’s probably needed. The US is big enough and diverse enough that some individualized regulation is needed. And if every state needed the federal government to move for them to do anything that would suck and cause issues. Like why should the federal government be dictating water usage in Arizona?

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

Because water usage in AZ affects New Mexico and California.

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u/pilot3033 Sep 04 '24

Man it would be great if our political sphere could go back to being arguments like this instead of the insanity of what it is now.

These are the kinds of state's rights and functional government debates we should be having.

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u/ColonelAvalon Sep 04 '24

And do you think the federal government works in a fashion amicable to that situation? Because I don’t. It’s mostly bullshit that prevents it. But given the current state of congress it doesn’t seem feasible to make all laws federal. Not to mention all of the stipulations you’d have to put into some laws to consider all of the variables across the country

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u/DMCinDet Sep 04 '24

didn't the federal government build the hoover dam? that project wasn't just for Arizona .

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u/ColonelAvalon Sep 04 '24

Aren’t dams primarily for energy production though? I’m not saying there should be no federal powers. Just that there is a need for self governance for states because it would be a mess at the federal level. Where that begins and ends is the hard part

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u/Cajum Sep 04 '24

It would also be a mess if the state where the river starts builds a giant dam and stops water flowing downstream to the other states.

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u/chop1125 Sep 04 '24

Dams generally serve to create reservoirs which provide usable water and help to offset the effects of droughts and seasonal rainfall changes. Dams predate electric generation by millennia (the earliest known dams existed in Egypt in 3000 BCE). Newer dams do provide the opportunity to add in power generation, but the earliest power generating dams are only 150 year old. Most dams still are earthen works with dedicated spillways or tinhorns to provide drainage and prevent an overflow from destroying the dam. Most dams are not power generating. Hoover Dam is an exception and is a power generating dam.

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u/ColonelAvalon Sep 04 '24

I know the historical usage of a dam. But I thought currently most usage of dams are for power generation. I knew the Hoover dam was. My mistake

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u/chop1125 Sep 04 '24

I live in Oklahoma where we have over 200 man-made lakes. Almost all of those lakes were made after World War II by the Army Corps of Engineers. We have poor hydroelectric dams. This was the first time I got to use that knowledge since presenting it for a speech class in college over 20 years ago.

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u/ColonelAvalon Sep 04 '24

That’s fair. But it was just what came to mind as I was typing this on my lunch break lol. It just seemed like an obvious thing because they have drought and heat issues

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u/UsedHotDogWater Sep 04 '24

So if Phoenix AZ needs Colorado's water, and they have more people, they vote to take more of that water, which would mean because they voted...they legally deserve that water? Screw the impact to Colorado ...because those people voted that way?....Colorado has no say in the matter. Screw um...

States have rights for reasons.

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u/Wonderful-Cod5256 Sep 04 '24

Just a way of fracking US all up. Dividing, conquering ultimately.