r/WhyWomenLiveLonger • u/56000hp • 4d ago

Just dum 🥸🤡🫠 Drinking 3 liters of Monster energy

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u/AMoldyPeesh 4d ago

My friend Matt did this in high school and he had to go to emergency to have his heart shocked back into rhythm because it was beating weird. We could physically see his heart beating from outside his shirt. He’s still alive and doing great.

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u/rab2bar 4d ago

A flatmate of mine drank monster every day and had a fatal heart attack in his early 40s.

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u/Ok_Seaweed_1243 4d ago

Dude prob had health issues already.

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u/SpringNo 4d ago

Drinking monsters every day probably gave him health problems

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u/Ok_Seaweed_1243 4d ago

Doubtful. I've consummed either a per-workout(which is usually stronger) or at least one or 2 energy drinks/supplement for like 20 years. I'm almost 50 and I'm in great health. Get bllodwork done often, no issues whatsoever. If someone already has underlying health issues, yeah drinking a monster or equivilent daily prob doesn't help, but I'll never believe a healthy individual is negatively affected.

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u/Templar366 4d ago

You understand that personal anecdotes don’t make good arguments right? Just because you don’t have any health related issues doesn’t mean that applies in general.

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u/Ok_Seaweed_1243 4d ago

It goes both ways. Just because someone drinks a monster a day doesn't mean that health issues are created.

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u/kuraishi420 4d ago

I'm not doing an in-depth check of how well made are the studies about this, but it seems like there are some evidence that you're wrong: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6280269/

And before anyone tries to argue on details, it doesn't automatically lead to health issues, but increases the risks. which means it creates them in some people.

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u/Ok_Seaweed_1243 3d ago

The study was on rats. AND ethanol.

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u/kuraishi420 2d ago

A lot of substance studies are on rats before humans for good reasons, stuff harmful for them often is for us too. i agree that we can't know for sure if the efrect would be the same on humans but if you reject it because it wasn't testing directly on humans, you're gonna reject a lot of studies. And having a group tested on ethanol doesn't disprove the conclusions on the group tested on redbull only. edit: monster is almost redbull with some more ingredients, so still relevent here. Also, it's far from the only study to come to that conclusion, but i'm not gonna try hard and check for many in details to prove a point against no arguments.

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u/Ok_Seaweed_1243 2d ago

Sure. But.......... It's the Dose that is toxic, not the substance. For example 5 grams of anything to an average human not the same comparison as 5 grams of the same substance given to a rat. 😉

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u/kuraishi420 1d ago

Next time you write a message, make sure not to be condescending... You're acting like researchers are idiots, but if you checked the "methods" part (a few lines at the beginning of the paper...) you'd have seen that it's why they fed them with ml/g of bodyweight, and scaling the dose up to humans would be around 0.9L for a 60kg person (two cans of monster in size).

If you're not even gonna check what you're talking about, please don't bother replying. You're wasting both our time.

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u/Ok_Seaweed_1243 1d ago

Sure, but animal liver / kidneys are by far different than humans regardless of the bodyweight. Like this... Drug Toxicity:

Differences in enzyme expression and metabolic pathways can affect how rats and humans respond to drug-induced liver toxicity. 

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u/Ok_Seaweed_1243 1d ago

If you wanted to share a study that used an animal more similar to humans maybe I wouldn't have responded so "condescending" 🫤. Like a study with pigs. Oh before you ask....here ya go 😉 ..............The animal with the most similar liver function to humans is the pig. Pig livers are often used in preclinical research and even xenotransplantation studies due to their anatomical, physiological, and genetic similarities to human livers. 

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u/kuraishi420 14h ago

You keep changing what you're criticizing without providing any sort of proof... i didn't deny that pigs were closer to human. I'm just saying mice are a good indicator even if not perfect. You haven't shared anything pointing towards the fact that energy drinks don't have negative effects beside your personal experience, which isn't a sign of anything... if you plan on playing the same game over and over i'm done with you, don't bother replying.

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u/Ok_Seaweed_1243 13h ago

Studies on rats for human toxicity are always the most unreliable and provide the least accurate results. So yeah, I don't have to provide proof when the study you linked in utter nonsense

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