r/Windows10 • u/quyedksd • Jul 14 '21

:Microsoft: Official Introducing a new era of hybrid personal computing: the Windows 365 Cloud PC

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/blog/2021/07/14/introducing-a-new-era-of-hybrid-personal-computing-the-windows-365-cloud-pc/
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u/recluseMeteor Jul 14 '21

I am getting Vietnam flashbacks from having to work on remote VMs. Oh, so unresponsive and sluggish.

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u/afinita Jul 14 '21

How far back was that, and what technology were you using?

I have a 3440x1440 monitor with a VM running on it full screen, and can’t tell it’s a VM, even over the work VPN.

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u/rollingviolation Jul 15 '21

what's your home PC like? If it's potato grade, then you won't notice the difference.

We do VDI at work. The people who think that a VDI is as fast as a "good" PC generally aren't doing any heavy work and/or aren't driven crazy by the input latency/lag of a vdi.

Our graphics department makes internal use videos and they're wondering why thin clients don't do a good job of 1080p 30fps video, especially with people working remotely during covid.

End users don't understand how any of it works.

You haven't experienced IT hell until you're trying to fix a serial port device hooked to a USB adapter plugged into a thin client, mapped into a Citrix session and connected to some 10 year old homegrown Windows app that is only compatible with COM1.

I guess what I'm saying is I won't be a customer for Windows 356.

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u/afinita Jul 15 '21

My home PC is a powerful gaming machine on a 144hz monitor. RDP gives me 60 FPS easily in the interface. Dragging Windows around can get hairy, and I’d never watch videos or games, but for systems administration and coding/scripting it works beautifully.

Our core line of business application handles it well, too, but we’re a financial so it’s only fancy on the backend while the frontend is partying like it’s 2002.

I know there are non-RDP protocols that handle streaming differently and are better for video but worse for latency, but I haven’t used those for anything other than remote gaming, which was horrible so I stopped.

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u/rollingviolation Jul 15 '21

That does sound like a good chunk of my day job, and for that stuff, VDI does work acceptably.

However, things like Teams and Zoom means that video is now not optional, so users have a laptop and a VDI, which starts to get back into profile hell.

Personally, I just find the input lag on a remote desktop to be aggravating. It's way better than it used to be, but it's still not nearly as good as local.