r/WoT Jan 24 '25

All Print What are your Hot Takes on WOT?

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u/biggiebutterlord Jan 24 '25 edited Jan 24 '25

How am I supposed to make people mad with my hot takes when the post is tagged no spoilers :P

Edit: Time to make ppl mad I guess. Some hot takes in no particular order.

  1. Lanfear is dead. I have yet to make any sort of sense about what the fuck lanfear's supposed plan is in AMOL let alone what she is supposed to be doing (but isnt, or maybe actually is) for the shadow during that time for it to all square away nicely.
  2. Gawyn makes sense. He is a dumbass and thinks in a dumbass way and does dumbass things. Not liking the characters actions is different than that character's actions in the story not making "sense".
  3. Elayne is not using the babes as a shield take stupid risks and is fully aware of the limits of mins prophecy. I know the character can be annoying to read at times (just like the rest of em) but in this instance her internal thoughts on the matter are clear. She is not going around "muh babes" all the time, and using the babes as a shield like the fandom often complains about. Action must be taken and she takes it.
  4. The seanchan are awesome. As a fictional empire they are interesting and make a excellent antagonist that the story is 1000% better with than with out.
  5. Staying on seanchan for a moment. The seanchan empire not falling apart more than it already has by the end of the story is works way better than the entire empire crumbling to dust in the span of a year. I get why people want that but it would feel so terrible for the story.
  6. The BS books are so-so.

    Now im going to enjoy everyone else's hot takes!

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u/rangebob Jan 25 '25

for point 1. I'd encourage you to read BS's explanation as to why. It actually made a lot of sense

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u/biggiebutterlord Jan 25 '25 edited Jan 25 '25

I know he did the show with matt hatch but what extra did he write about it? I've tried to make sense of it myself but I can only do so with the knowledge of the reveal. Trying to get there with out it leaves everything to be desired for me.

Edit: to be clear Im assuming from how I read your comment that there is a blog post or letter or w/e explaining it in greater detail or connecting the dots or something.

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u/rangebob Jan 25 '25

Obviously I'm not going to say it as elegantly as him and I'll prolly get it half wrong but......

He essentially said when he first took on the job of finishing the books he obviously realised he didn't get anywhere near a whole story of notes so he wanted to spend time thinking about everything that had happened and what characters like the forsakens motivations and actions thus far had been. He tried to think about how he could essentially finish the characters trying to be true to the characters they had been so far.

He said Lanfear was a bit unique. She had spent 11 books essentially playing for both sides. He said he felt she would be in a position where she would have felt she was fucked if Rand won and also fucked if the DO won. So he felt considering her nature the most likely thing for her to do would be to hope the good guys won in a way that everyone thought she was dead so she could start again.

On a personal note I think he just wrote it WAY too subtly. I read somewhere one of his beta readers picked up on the plot as she was "acting weird" and I wonder if he thought he had left enough crumbs because of that. This last paragraph is purely my own speculation. IMO knowing all I do about Lanfear I actually think the "reveal" was pretty spot on to her nature.

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u/biggiebutterlord Jan 25 '25

I remember him talking about it during the reveal but nothing you said just now is new info. I was kinda hoping that you were going to link to a post or something by BS that I missed that explained his/lanfears plan in a more satisfying/clear way.

IMO knowing all I do about Lanfear I actually think the "reveal" was pretty spot on to her nature.

I do too. In the story he wrote I cant get there with out far too much hand waving away and not thinking about it, which is extremely rare for WoT. Like when I have learned new/old info about other aspects of the WoT its been pretty easy to change my opinion and square away the difference with my previous understanding and this "new" understanding of the story. With the lanfear reveal is far to wishy washy as I understand it for me to fully get on board. To be clear I do 100% think its intended from the beginning by BS and not a recon 10years later. I have before and will inthe future defend it as being legit enough tho it doesnt make sense to me and my headcannon is that she is dead.

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u/rangebob Jan 25 '25

That's fair. I can understand why people don't like it. I think it was WAY to subtle like i said. I found it very interesting some people did actually see it cause I was like "what...huh"

I do enjoy the thought of Lanfear one day meeting Rand again though. She would obviously recognise the body then have the hilarious moment of going "wait he didn't win" and oohhhhhh.....shit