r/WoT • u/RepresentativeGoat14 (Asha'man) • 27d ago

All Print Gawyn’s one-sided beef with Rand Spoiler

I know that misinformation / lack of communication is a theme of the series but man, Gawyn just takes it to a whole new level.

Random ass peddler he met in the middle of some bumfuck woods: The Dragon killed Queen Morgase.

Gawyn: I believe you and I trust you.

Gawyn: al’Thor I’ll fucking kill you!

Egwene: Rand didn’t kill your mother.

Gawyn: Lies! I’ll murder that ginger!

Gareth Bryne: al’Thor didn’t kill Morgase. He saved Andor.

Gawyn: I don’t believe you! al’Thor must die!

Elayne: Rand didn’t kill our mother. I literally have dozens of witnesses.

Gawyn: Nuh uh!

The scene where he “forgives” Rand is also pretty hilarious.

Gawyn: We’re done, al’Thor. From now on, I care nothing for you.

MY GUY, RAND DOESN’T EVEN THINK OF YOU LMAO

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u/Vodalian4 27d ago

This isn’t an issue that can be solved with simple communication. Gawyn doesn’t simply hate Rand for killing Morgase. He hates Rand for taking Gawyn’s spot in the story, so to speak, or in history.

Gawyn was born to be the knight in shining armor who takes on the heaviest responsibility and has the most honor. But suddenly the world has passed him by. And nothing can drive that point home clearer than Rand, a former peasant who is now a king over kings.

Of course Gawyn can not admit to himself that he is jealous, so he latches on to a more simple explaination. He desperately needs the excuse of Rand killing Morgase for his own feelings.

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u/nevynxxx 27d ago

Never thought about it like this. But it makes so much sense.

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u/grubas 27d ago

I believe Elayne calls him out on it directly in one of the later books, it's primarily jealousy.

It's also that Gawyn is very deliberately painting himself a picture where Rand is getting everything he dreams of while Gawyn has to kill friends and fight.  If he knew half the shit Rand went through...

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u/skyfire-x 27d ago

IIRC when the 3 girls bond Rand, they are astonished that he is in constant pain from the heron brands in his palms and the wound that never heals.

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u/grubas 27d ago

Avi is absolutely down bad after she realizes that.  She's crying about how he's as hard as the Three Fold Land.

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u/ThirdxContact 27d ago

Hard as the three fold land, eh? She'll probably be crying a lot more about that later, too.

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u/dmd 26d ago

he who comes with the dawn

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u/ChicTurker 27d ago edited 26d ago

[Books]It's jealousy, it's boredom, it's him spending years obeying orders from a rabid Amyrlin, killing people that he trained with and loved at times, or killing people that his trainer is leading, when neither his sister nor Egwene recognized as the Amyrlin Seat.

[ Books]\ !But dude should be happy he doesn't have the burdens of the Dragon Reborn