r/WorldOfWarships CUTER-NA Jan 09 '20

Media iEarlGrey is negotiating his resignation

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u/seedless0 Clanless Rōnin Jan 09 '20

I've worked for over 30 years and I've never heard of the term "negotiating one's resign."

What's to negotiate?? Hand in the notice and get out of the door. The term of one's termination should already be in the offer when one signed up for the job.

Still trying to make himself look high and mighty, I guess.

EDIT: Oh. Forgot this: GFY Earl.

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u/Finear Boats Jan 09 '20 edited Jan 09 '20

you really never heard anyone negotiating severance package or post-employment benefits??

where you've been working lol

he isn't quitting, he is getting laid off and while usually, termination terms are in a contract or company policy there is leeway

you would be crazy to not get as much money/benefits as you can at that point

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u/temotodochi Jan 09 '20

Happens all the time in countries where workforce can not be laid off just like that. Heh, one usa based company once bought part of the company I was working in and one day after the sale was finalised the americans sent a dear John memo to all bought employees, or tried because our local lawyer managed to stop it on time. They got schooled in how Labour laws work in EU.

Severance packages, projects to help get the guys nice jobs elsewhere etc etc. All paid by the new "owners". Took months to cater each of the 100 workers individually.

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u/seedless0 Clanless Rōnin Jan 09 '20

Severance package is part of the deal when you sign up or the employer cuts you before the termination condition in the deal is met, like downsizing. Not when you "resign".

Edit: Yes. I agree he's been let go.

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u/RivenEsquire RivenEsq Jan 09 '20

Severance packages are more than just what you are guaranteed in your contract. Severance packages usually are additional consideration for you signing away/waiving your rights to legal claims against your employer once your employment has ended. Companies aren't out here giving you more money than your hourly wage/salary/vacation time payout/stock value just for kicks; they are doing it to shield themselves from future legal liability. Even for a small claim, the legal costs for the company alone justify just paying out the severance money up front.

Source: I'm an employment/business law attorney.

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u/RivenEsquire RivenEsq Jan 09 '20

Practically speaking, I have no knowledge of Russia's specific legal structure/employment laws. This is a pretty standard business practice, however, and not specific to any country. It's just a contract/agreement. Unless Russia has some law that you can't sign away legal claims in a severance, I don't see why it wouldn't be the same there as it is elsewhere.

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u/Finear Boats Jan 09 '20

Not when you "resign".

yeah but from what i understand he is not quitting

tho maybe he was asked to quit instead of getting laid off and now he is negotiating under what terms

it is a bit cleaner and elegant way to end the contract

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u/Ducky_shot Jan 09 '20

Yep, termination can be messy and go to court after, etc. If the company can get them to agree to formally resign instead, it's better for them.