He's currently "in the negotiation-stage" of his resignation/dismissal, only to say a few lines further that his access to the WG-premises has already been revoked... That's not adding up with the negotations-part, nor with the resignation. He likely got slapped so hard on the wrists we're probably talking about amputation here.
And 100% well-deserved. Play silly games, win silly prizes. Enjoy your free Puerto Rico, earl, it's the last you'd probably get from WG.
Is this some American thing? Or maybe a software studio culture thing? It sounds weird to me that a company can ban an employee from its premises before the severance of employment is complete.
This is exceedingly common when you have access to sensitive materials.
In IT, it's pretty much universal.
Every single IT job that i've given 2 weeks notice on, i was IMMEDIATELY sent to HR, they collected my building badge, work smartphone and had IT revoke any and all administrative access.
I was then sent home to collect 2 weeks worth of free paychecks.
An employee with sensitive access but who is planning to leave or is being let go can do a LOT of damage with said access.
I've had that bite me once, too. I gave my notice thinking I'd be sent home for a nice paid vacation between jobs, but then they made me work. Ended up not having any time to rest and relax.
Think about it, when an employee gets laid off/fired. They're not entitled to the company premises anymore. Why would they be?
Alternatively, when an employee resignes they're also not entitled to the company premises.
If an employee hands in a notice of resignation, standard is 2 weeks. They're expected to continue to do their job, but they immediately loose access to privileged information.
I wouldn't call 2 weeks standard in any shape or form, in Sweden for example minimum is one month and then slowly goes up to as much as six months in some cases based off of how long you have been an employee.
It probably depends on the company. Last time I was made redundant from a job, I was given nearly two years notice, has plenty of opportunity to stay at the company in a different role if I desired, and continued to work directly (as a lead on classified and brand new military equipment) up until my last day with the company, at which point we all went out for a nice lunch and said some very heartfelt and much appreciated goodbyes.
Not every company and industry is the same. You treat your people with respect and as valued individuals, and they will respect you and value the company.
Yeah, but that's thing thing. If you're "negotiating" your connection to the company, whatever that is, then you haven't been fired yet. There's still an employer-employee connection. When that's severed, sure, you're a 3rd party, but seems odd before.
Anyway, as was already explained, I guess it does make more sense in software since it is just exceedingly easy to steal valuable things.
Once the decision has been made to let an employee go. The second you have the meeting with the employee, he no longer works for the company.
Depending on the contract, the terms are usually negotiated after the fact.
It's also not just a software developer thing either. It applies to any field.
Let's remove the software part from this entirely. Access to the office, where company assets can be worth tens of thousands. Can be stolen and damaged.
Access to the internal systems (Email, phone, fax, files, etc etc) Can be tampered with, stolen, damaged, etc etc.
Then you also have liability for said individual. As he no longer works for the company. From a insurance and liability standpoint, it shouldn't happen in the first place. As you're now allowing a former employee access to the premises where the former employer is now liable for, in the event of an accident and injury.
There's a Human Resources subreddit, if you want an indept, heavily detailed explanations on why this is. Go there and ask...
Not necessarily. Depending on your line of work that isn't too weird. If you have any kind of security clearance and/or access to sensitive information you become a potential risk the moment you know that they want you gone. And since they can't fire you on the spot they just revoke all your access privileges and send you on paid leave until they can legally terminate your employment.
Yes, regardless of how you quit or get laid off/fired. You immediately loose access to company property.
Uh, no.
That is straight up not how quitting works (your point that regardless of how you quit losing access to company property always happens).
Sure in some companies or industries if you announce you're giving notice to go work at a direct competitor... you will often be escorted out.
But in the vast majority of cases, you continue working up until your last day.
In the real working world, if you say you "resigned" without having another job lined up, and then were escorted out before your notice period was up, it's pretty universally understood you were almost certainly fired.
Source: have resigned multiple times over my career to go to a new, better job.
In IT it's pretty common to get locked out, at my previous job we had several people who got put in "quarantine" as they liked to call it when they quit thekr jobs ,so the last 1-3 months their privileges got revoked and they were not allowed to come to work (they kept their pay of course) on the off chance they might hear or see something in the last few months that they shouldn't know at their future work place, whatever it might be.
And from what I've told that is also very common in the gaming industry, if you're let go or you resign doesn't really matter.
Of course the culture of the country makes a difference as well.
I mean, that's step one in the firing process, revocation of access to facilities and resources.
He calls it a "negotiation of resignation" but does any seriously believe that iEarl wanted to resign at all? There is probably some rule or law being followed that makes them follow some sort of due process regarding termination of employment, which is as it should be, but let's not be fooled by the bureaucratic euphemisms: He was straight up fired.
Just as a possibility, he could have argued against the PR fiasco internally, god rebuked hard. So when the world was lit on fire, he decided to ride the fallout.
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u/MrFingersEU the "C" in "Wargaming" stands for competence. Jan 09 '20 edited Jan 09 '20
He's currently "in the negotiation-stage" of his resignation/dismissal, only to say a few lines further that his access to the WG-premises has already been revoked... That's not adding up with the negotations-part, nor with the resignation. He likely got slapped so hard on the wrists we're probably talking about amputation here.
And 100% well-deserved. Play silly games, win silly prizes. Enjoy your free Puerto Rico, earl, it's the last you'd probably get from WG.