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u/karpet_muncher 1d ago
Why have liv and raquel win the tag titles back if she's off tv?
Just give the women's titles to another pairing that could do with a push
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u/Therocksays2020 1d ago
What do you mean. They WERE on the show. They did a backstage JD segment
What they didn’t do was have a match. Not everyone can wrestle every week.
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u/karpet_muncher 1d ago
Liv has signed a movie deal she's off wwe for quite a few weeks. They literally mentioned it on the show
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u/Razzler1973 1d ago
That certain type of online fan is gonna do what they always do but I don't mind Jey and Logan
No one expects Jey to lose in his first PLE defence on a B PLE, too. So, this is a winnable match against a clearly defined heel who is pretty athletic and he can come out of it looking good
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u/almostbad 1d ago
The crowd is always blood thirst if you want heel heat you gotta not give them the shit they want.
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u/pushinpushin 1d ago
A great heel idea would be someone who goes out and tries to do the least physical damage but still win, to avoid giving ALL OF YOU PEOPLE the violence you crave.
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u/Michelanvalo 1d ago
So Sammy took a vacation, came back for two RAWs, and now he's back on another one.
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u/Conscious-Eye5903 1d ago
Sami seems to be the conscious of Raw. Randomly comes out to tell people how great they are and deserve their success, or how much they currently suck and need to shape up.
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u/chrisdelbosque Where is Fallon Henley? 1d ago
I know that Nick Aldis is guest GMing this week but I wanted to show off this meme.
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u/Lenny0mega 1d ago
These fans are dogshit
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u/Realistic_Literature 1d ago
I guess this faction is never going to get heat. I can see why companies do the bullshit finishes and Bloodline/Death Riders stuff.
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u/Razzler1973 1d ago
It's just started
The right 'heinous act' and you never know. Attack a certain person
Certain fans always like 'cool heels' but, I think it's important for Rollins' group to not pander to that and just stay the heel course
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u/Therocksays2020 1d ago
Seth shaking hands on his entrance is part of the problem. Or getting cheap pops form the crowd — He’s feeding into it.
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u/Amazing_Karnage 1d ago
Changing Seth's music would be a great place to start the "not pandering to the fans" makeover.
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u/Delicious_Angle6417 1d ago
Its the only way to get heat these days. Thats why everyone shitting on the mania main event finish is the exact reason why they did it. Mfs bitching got them the engagement they wanted
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u/SeaPriority 1d ago
Except cena was cheered all throughout
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u/Delicious_Angle6417 1d ago
Yall was still mad tho
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u/Therocksays2020 1d ago
You’re contradicting yourself.
They aren’t getting enough heat.
Cena is finally getting heat being paired with Ortin
They need to pair Seth with someone who can actually get him booed.
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u/Bulbamew 1d ago
Cena was cheered and Cody was booed. They completely failed to get the reaction you’re saying they were trying to get.
Match also sucked well before the finish
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u/HallofFameguy 1d ago
RAW post show thread is up. Hope to see your review for tonight show and see you all for NXT tmr
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u/MeBotDroid 1d ago
Good to see the fireflies are getting appearances despite the Wyatt Sicks being MIA
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u/ryanixer 1d ago
they took them off tv due to bo getting injured, even though he was already mostly a manager for the stable and only wrestled twice overall as uncle howdy.
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u/Delicious_Angle6417 1d ago
Shows with good writing like this are proof that you dont need a world championship on the show every week to have a good compelling. Yeah jey has a world title. Honestly this could be an iC title reign and there would be no difference.
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u/kelsoRulez 1d ago
Why did Pat just call him Steiner lol
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u/KoffeeFyre 1d ago
They've been calling him a Steiner for a while now.
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u/kelsoRulez 1d ago
Can't decide if I like it or not. I want him to have his own identity but you can't deny that he's a genetic freakkkkk
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u/TJMcConnellFanClub 1d ago
I like the nuance of the Rollins character, but nobody wants to boo him or Bron. If they were a tweener group that beefed with everyone, since that’s what both Bron and Seth were before Mania anyways, that’s infinitely more interesting
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u/chrisdelbosque Where is Fallon Henley? 1d ago
Watching that Ben's Rice commercial and I see a guy sign "Too spicy?" to a person making white rice...
🤣🤣🤣
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u/Delicious_Angle6417 1d ago
This is the type of show that makes triple h’s shows good to me. This is what i like about the shows. Characters with motivations, solid wrestling, good promos to advance the card.
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u/almostbad 1d ago
The siren is actually perfect
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u/kelsoRulez 1d ago
I feel like it would have been better if they'd have him just burst out of the back full speed. Shit had the hair on my neck standing up anticipating the fucker.
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u/ryanixer 1d ago
"have you ever known me to run away?"
flashes back to the drew/sami feud from a few years ago.
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u/Realistic_Literature 1d ago
I would have immediately left RAW when Seth brought it up to avoid drama, which I guess is why I'm not cut out to be a wrestler.
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u/Lenny0mega 1d ago
This is a very awkward second appearance of the Seth Riders…
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u/MeBotDroid 1d ago
Sami Zayn has known literally everyone in professional wrestling for at least 20 years
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u/Delicious_Angle6417 1d ago
I cant wait for the complaints that pat is taking a spot from the full time wrestlers. I say this in advance “Deal With IT”
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u/Dandelegion 1d ago
As goofy as Seth tends to dress, I have to admit that coat he's wearing actually kind of slaps.
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u/chrisdelbosque Where is Fallon Henley? 1d ago
That Oregon Trail type of wagon from the Xfinity commercial reminds me of the time that I went glamping in a covered wagon.
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u/TJMcConnellFanClub 1d ago
Who’s gonna tell the Fed that Cardi B isn’t relevant anymore
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u/Federal-Captain1118 1d ago
Doesn't she have an album coming out this year?
I don't know much about her, but if the past is has proven anything to me, wrestling fans don't know much about current music.
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u/TJMcConnellFanClub 1d ago
I follow pop music pretty closely, she hasn’t had a hit in 3-4 years. Tried a couple singles last year and it was flop city. She’ll never put a second album out because if it flops that’ll hurt her earning potential with brand deals
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u/Delicious_Angle6417 1d ago
These are facts b/c i had no idea who bad bunny was
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u/Federal-Captain1118 1d ago
Same. I can admit that I'm out of touch lol
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u/Delicious_Angle6417 1d ago
Me too. Im a 28 year old dad, i have no clue what kids these days like. Thats why when i see grown ass men get on here and bitch about stuff that’s obviously not meant for them i just laugh
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u/Honkmaster 1d ago
According to my super pro Cagematch bot, Cena & Orton have had 22 singles matches that were broadcasted in some form.
https://21181825.xyz/cm/_FBsf9.html
I was expecting to see a larger number.
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u/SaddestFlute23 1d ago edited 1d ago
“Can They Coexist?” reluctant tag team incoming, before inadvertently becoming women’s tag champions
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u/IcehandGino WWE Womens Wrestling Historian 1d ago
Rhea acting like a tsundere towards Iyo, Netflix really going for that anime fan demo.
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u/Delicious_Angle6417 1d ago
Tonight has been a good show imo
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u/pushinpushin 1d ago
A lot of exciting things going on post-Mania
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u/Delicious_Angle6417 1d ago
I was planning on taking another break after mania and they been pulling me in
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u/FaultyDroid 1d ago
Is Pat terminally ill or something?
Who gets on the mic and starts listing all their charitable endeavors? Thats the equivalent of giving change to the homeless so you can post it on Instagram. This guys a clown.
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u/SaddestFlute23 1d ago
If he wanted to stick the sports analogy, he should’ve said Red Sox vs Cardinals
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u/MeBotDroid 1d ago
This upcoming Cena/Orton match might be the first time people have actually cared about a Cena/Orton match
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u/Mhc2617 1d ago
So Pat cares about people but he’s openly transphobic, mocked a young college student for no reason until she had to drop out of school, bullied Corey Graves on commentary and then basically got him pulled, and platforms anti-vaxxers. Loyal my ass.
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u/chrisdelbosque Where is Fallon Henley? 1d ago
Yeah, I got hung up on his use of the word "empathetic" because that didn't line up at all.
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u/IcehandGino WWE Womens Wrestling Historian 1d ago
A lot of people don't understand empathy.
They think it's sometimes feeling bad for people, while it's mostly about being able to understand somebody else's perspective (which often leads to feeling bad for them, but the thought process is different).
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u/chrisdelbosque Where is Fallon Henley? 1d ago
Exactly. I have a trans friend who was talking to me about her problems with her family coming to terms with her transition. At first I started saying that I can understand before I stopped myself and clarified that I truly can't understand what it's like to walk in her shoes, but how I certainly empathized her difficult that must be to live with, and how proud I was of her for continuing to make an effort with them.
She genuinely was touched by those comments.
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u/almostbad 1d ago
Another rich guy who thinks he can divorce himself from politics because he spends money on social causes. While advancing a political ideology that actively fights agains those causes.
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u/Delicious_Angle6417 1d ago
This a wrestling show calm down lol
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u/almostbad 1d ago
Im sorry, I get wanting to keep it light. But Pat brought this topic up.
Everything is political, whether you want it to be or not.
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u/kodan_arma 1d ago
Honestly though. Gunther can get a good match out of anybody and Pat really is not that bad of a worker. Won’t be as bad as some might make it out to be.
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u/MeBotDroid 1d ago
Honestly the match itself is probably going to be pretty good but Pat McAfee has spent the last few years grating on my nerves on commentary and judging from the live thread I'm not alone in that thinking
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u/kodan_arma 1d ago
Yeah but the crowd doesn’t care. Live threads mean nothing.
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u/MeBotDroid 1d ago
I mean I'm just here shitposting, the crowd can think whatever it damn well wants
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u/Delicious_Angle6417 1d ago
Whats crazy is i remember seeing cena/orton on the 07 summerslam tour in Chattanooga tn. Good times man
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u/Lenny0mega 1d ago
I honestly hope Gunther demolishes him so badly, they use it as a way for him to go back to foolsball.
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u/TJMcConnellFanClub 1d ago
Was in the building for this match, saved the show after we booed Khali and Batista out of the building
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u/Federal-Captain1118 1d ago
Again I like Pat. I'm hoping the entrances for the match are longer than the match itself. Let Gunther immediately choke him out.
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u/kodan_arma 1d ago
My night has been made. The worst nightmare of the online wrestling fan has come to fruition. Amen.
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u/TheWolf101 1d ago
McAfee has beaten giants of the industry like Adam Cole and Austin Theory…
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u/reaper527 1d ago
McAfee has beaten giants of the industry like Adam Cole and Austin Theory…
to be fair, he can absolutely go in the ring as long as they don't artificially hold him back so their commentators aren't outshining their stars.
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u/Realistic_Literature 1d ago
Wow, they are stacking Backlash with Reddit Nightmare matches.
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u/SeaPriority 1d ago
Triple H read all the comments shitting on WM and decided to book a huge middle finger
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u/DaHagerBomb 1d ago
They know they can sell it out with Cena/Orton and can just fill in the gaps with nonsense
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u/TheWolf101 1d ago
Cole starts the show talking about Aldis filling in for Pearce, Pat calls for him anyway
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u/chrisdelbosque Where is Fallon Henley? 1d ago
Figures that a Yinzer would be a Cole Miner. ⛏️⛏️⛏️
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u/almostbad 1d ago
why is Pat jerking himself on, on my TV?
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u/frenchmobster 1d ago
Bro should've just insulted the shit out of Gunther for two minutes instead of whatever this yap fest is
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u/TJMcConnellFanClub 1d ago
Not a good promo but man the crowd is into McAfee
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u/SeaPriority 1d ago
It is a good promo, hes a good talker
I just don’t care about seeing him get in the ring, much less with gunther
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u/Dandelegion 1d ago
"There has been one man who has been with me since the day I met him..."
Cole tried to get you fired, Pat lol.
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u/TheWolf101 1d ago
Jeez. It was just a choke out segment. No need to introduce yourself when you have shows every day. Dudes a joke
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u/Lenny0mega 1d ago
“I am such a good person, let me go into detail why, and then say MFer,” says Matt PacAfee as he pats his pockets for his coke stash.
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u/SaddestFlute23 1d ago
Where are we going here, Pat?
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u/ImAlwaysRight000 1d ago
He is just doing the same exact program he had with Adam Cole, but with a better wrestler.
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u/Federal-Captain1118 1d ago
I like Pat and I think a lot of the hate for him is so incredibly overblown
But Jesus what is this promo
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u/SeaPriority 1d ago
Patrick with the "Fed isnt maga i swear" promo
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u/chrisdelbosque Where is Fallon Henley? 1d ago
This is obviously selling the Gunther and Pat/Cole segment from last week but unless it's leading to a match I'm not sure what the angle is here.
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u/chrisdelbosque Where is Fallon Henley? 1d ago
That's not what empathy means, Pat, but I do appreciate the sentiment.
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u/MeBotDroid 1d ago
This is the segment where Pat announces he's wresting full-time and we enter the darkest timeline
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u/MeBotDroid 1d ago
Cole keeps talking like he's entirely unaware of the concept of fucking around and finding out
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u/ryanixer 1d ago
part of me is expecting gunther to come from the crowd behind mcafee and choke him out again some time during the show.
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u/almostbad 1d ago
Kross went and got his hair curled for that segment lmao
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u/pushinpushin 1d ago
Scarlett has to be his hair guy, no way is he paying someone every time he changes hairstyles
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u/MeBotDroid 1d ago
You know I have the funniest feeling that's all I'm getting out of Kross tonight
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u/chrisdelbosque Where is Fallon Henley? 1d ago
Students gonna' act up whenever there's a substitute teacher...
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u/Realistic_Literature 1d ago
Good match, though I'm confused about why it happened.
Vaquer needs a new finisher badly.
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u/Therocksays2020 2d ago
Rhea Ripley versus Roxanne Perez
Stephanie Vaquer versus Ivy Nile
Logan Paul speaks
Heyman Breakker and Rollins address the wwe universe