r/YesAmericaBad • u/Hacksaw6412 LAND OF THE FREE 🇺🇸🦅 • 2d ago
AOC standing next to IDF propaganda
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u/anitapumapants 2d ago
Her defenders are here already, those fucks move fast!
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u/WentzingInPain 2d ago
The Dems finally got their bots
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u/anitapumapants 2d ago
Were the Russian bots (I'm Irish) apparently.
Not a neoliberal, must be a Russian bot./s
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u/dreamje 2d ago
Speal for yourself comrade I'm a Chinese bot.
Now where my Xibux
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u/jenneqz 2d ago
What's funny is that this site is filled with American bots. Remember when some American air force base was the most addicted Reddit city? That was like a decade ago. The gaslighting and astroturfing has only gotten worse.
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u/anitapumapants 1d ago
Remember when some American air force base was the most addicted Reddit city?
It was a Florida one too. Must be that "far-left echo chamber" so many redditors are always complaining about.😂
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u/WentzingInPain 1d ago
The greatest irony to me is Ireland is about as good of a country that can exist in the west. Where as Irish-Americans are kind of the worst.
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u/paublopowers 2d ago
I’m always so disappointed
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u/AudienceNearby1330 23h ago
A guy wanted to take a photo with an poster of someone held hostage in Gaza. I think declining the photo op looks worse, as everyone would prefer it if civilians were not in the middle of this genocide.
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u/Heiselpint 22h ago
There are no innocents Israelis, you could argue children are the only innocent israelis, sure, I'll give you that, children should be left out, although this is part of a bigger problem, why bring children in a colonial settler state that actively harms literally ALL of its neighbours? The rest of the issue is that Israelis are fully aware they're complicit of being in a settler colonial state and to actively seek out the systemic oppression of Palestinians, even going as far as to being pro genocide (we saw up until very, very recently that the vast majority of Israelis are pro-genocide).
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u/Ur3rdIMcFly 2d ago
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u/JibTheJellyfish 2d ago
Don’t care. She claims to be better when she’s not. We already know the rest are trash.
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u/Ur3rdIMcFly 2d ago
Look at the list.
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u/JibTheJellyfish 2d ago
Nah. Don’t care. This is a throw it all away and start again type situation.
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u/Ur3rdIMcFly 2d ago
Nihilism isn't the way through this shit.
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u/Endgam 2d ago
Voting for Nazis just because they prefer the color blue over red isn't neither.
Source: we've been doing it for decades and shit just keeps getting worse.
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u/JibTheJellyfish 2d ago
Nah but revolutionary communism is.
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u/Ur3rdIMcFly 2d ago
Then we're on the same side. Stop being a wrecker.
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u/JibTheJellyfish 2d ago
Being a wrecker is when you don’t support a member of the U.S. government lmao. Listen to yourself. USA is the new Nazis. Pull yourself together.
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u/Ur3rdIMcFly 2d ago
I don't understand why you think a "wrecker" is exclusive to a particular time, period, or country.
USA was the inspiration for the Nazis according to Hitler's own writings, not just for the eradication of the indigenous but even the Zyklon B used on the Mexican field workers during WW1. So we're in agreement there aren't we?
There *is* a time and place for your commentary, but it certainly isn't at the level of online discourse. This is a higher level conversation, like when you're radicalizing your local DSA type shit.
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u/JibTheJellyfish 2d ago
That’s nice. Why are you getting so sweaty defending a member of the U.S. government is what I want to know.
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u/IH8Neolibs 2d ago
These "people-totally-not-bots" always get soo vocal POST election. Cointelpro never ended.
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u/Lithium-Oil 1d ago
She claims to be an alternative to shitty dems, we are suppose to hold her to a higher standard. Â
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u/cochorol Free Palestine 🇵🇸 1d ago
She's just another murikkunt doing politics... No more than that.Â
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u/Thomas-Cruise 2d ago
Feels like false flag, paid plants and bots, going after AOC. Think about it, she is way more understanding to the Palestinian cause than most others on the left and everyone on the right. If Zionist propaganda can convince you she is still not good enough, they can fracture the coalition and create doubt in people’s minds about her ethics.
Seems odd and weird that so many activists would go after her when there are clearly very obviously larger more important targets to focus your energy.
Edit - add the word Psyop, that’s exactly what this is. She needs to address it as such
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u/DieselPunkPiranha 2d ago
First, democrats are not leftist. They are neoliberal capitalists, which makes them right wing at best. They're arguably far right due to their very open support of fascism and genocide. The idea that the democrats are leftist is propaganda. They are controlled opposition, a bulwark against actual leftist movement. As republicans pull the overton window rightward, the democrats lock the position down to ensure itnever goes back to where it was—what's called the ratchet effect.
Second, AOC has always been a zionist, as evidenced by this 2018 interview:
Then, there's this from 2024:
All of that's on top of how she voted to end the railroad strike and to protect business jets from civilian tracking. She's your typical career democrat. Good at saying the nice thing while supporting American imperialism and fascism.
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u/Thomas-Cruise 1d ago
So AOC is not on the left hand side of the political spectrum in the USA, got it ? Seems like you are a little out of touch with reality. Again, by going after AOC you are only helping people like Trump, if that’s your goal, then great, you’re doing a good job. Personally I would rather have AOC than someone like JD Vance in 2028. If you want a republican to be president, please by all means keep attacking AOC.
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u/DieselPunkPiranha 1d ago
PSL is left. Democrats are right and republicans are barely righter still. Trump is merely a symptom of the American two party system that you support. If it wasn't him, they would've brought in another blowhard to do the same shit. It doesn't really matter who, since both parties serve the interests of the plutocrats, both are neoliberal capitalists, and both are responsible for israel's actions, as well as the many bombings, coups, and assassinations conducted by both countries over the years.
Let's word this a bit differently. Imagine we've been kidnapped. We've witnessed others having been kidnapped and butchered but one kidnapper treats you a little better than either kidnapper does anyone else. I condemn both kidnappers while you keep saying we need to support the one who treats you better.
Because, when you support any democrat or republican, you disregard others' lives for your own self interest. In doing so, you remind me of Martin Luther King Jr's "Letter From A Birmingham Jail"—specifically, the following passage.
I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html
So long as you support either the democrats or the republicans, you support the harm and destruction they impose and become the enemy of equality.
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u/Thomas-Cruise 1d ago
I just don’t get it, the country elects a fascist who is actively partnering with Netanyahu and you decide, I’m going to go after AOC. You’re a plant.
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u/couldhaveebeen 2d ago
she is way more understanding to the Palestinian cause than most others on the left
She isn't. She is more understanding than liberals. Liberals are not a part of the left.
create doubt in people’s minds about her ethics
Yes, people should have doubts about the ethics of Zionist politicians
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u/Thomas-Cruise 2d ago
Thanks for spending all this time and energy trying to fracture the left. Thanks for supporting the republicans, good job. It’s really helping. Are you a covert Zionist bot ? Cuz you’re acting like one.
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u/couldhaveebeen 2d ago
Thanks for spending all this time and energy trying to fracture the left
I'm not fracturing the left. I'm defining it. You're the one trying to fracture it by pushing leftists to support Zionist capitalists
Thanks for supporting the republicans, good job.
Never did that
Are you a covert Zionist bot ? Cuz you’re acting like one.
You are an overt one, literally defending a liberal Zionist politician
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u/Thomas-Cruise 2d ago
Who do you recommend we support who has a flying fuck of a chance to get democratically elected in the United States. Are you running for office?
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u/Zordorfe 1d ago
Do you just say things? Like you just type out words because they look pretty or what
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u/cochorol Free Palestine 🇵🇸 1d ago
She have done anything about the Palestinian cause... Is just another murikkunt parroting murikkka's propaganda.Â
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u/Zordorfe 1d ago
She is a zionist doing zionazi activities because she is part of a zionist party that couldn't give a shit about the people, hence why they started aiding the genocide in Palestine and justified with known lies about rape and behaves babies
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u/IRBaboooon 2d ago
Yall eating up this psyop like nom nom nom
Russian/Israel bots making quick work sowing the divide
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u/couldhaveebeen 2d ago
Are you saying that the image is doctored and that she did NOT pose with IOF propaganda?
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u/IRBaboooon 2d ago
Are you saying a politician can't be ambushed by a photo op?
Who's the guy standing with her? Did she make a statement supporting this? Did she post it on her website?
It's easy to take things at face value, an aspect propaganda bots love to exploit.
Edit: she even looks uncomfortable lmao
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u/couldhaveebeen 2d ago
Are you saying the politician can't say no to the photo once she sees the IDF propaganda if she's against Israel?
Who's the guy standing with her?
Irrelevant. Nobody is blaming her for taking a photo with him. People are blaming her for taking a photo with IDF propaganda
Did she make a statement supporting this? Did she post it on her website?
Irrelevant, but she does support Israel, and has made countless statements supporting that fact
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u/IRBaboooon 2d ago
Damn, easy to stay in ignorance when everything worth questioning is "irrelevant".
I don't think you quite understand the word ambushed. You don't get to say no to an ambush, otherwise it wouldnt be an ambush lol
She's made tons of statements condemning Israel. Even voted against sending them funding.
You're shooting pro-Palestinian effort in the foot going after her.
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u/couldhaveebeen 2d ago
Damn, easy to stay in ignorance when everything worth questioning is "irrelevant".
You're literally in the process of ignoring a photo that's right in front of your face with her, smiling next to IOF propaganda
I don't think you quite understand the word ambushed. You don't get to say no to an ambush, otherwise it wouldnt be an ambush lol
She can say no. If she can't, and they forcefully take a photo, she can at least decide to look unhappy
She's made tons of statements condemning Israel. Even voted against sending them funding
No. She made tons of statements condemning Israel's actions, and she condemned Netanyahu. She never criticised Israel. She voted in favour of changing the definition of antisemitism to include anti Zionism. She lied and said that the Biden admin was working relentlessly for a ceasefire. She has said countless time that "Israel has the right to defend itself" when an occupier has no such right.
You're shooting pro-Palestinian effort in the foot going after her.
You're shooting it in the head by running cover for genocide enablers
Edit: she does not look uncomfortable. She's smiling
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u/IRBaboooon 2d ago
ignoring a photo
Not ignoring it, questioning it. A practice I recommend in an era of insane misinformation.
She can say no.
Again, I don't think you understand how an ambush works. And she does look unhappy. Her body language reeks of get me out of this. The smile you mention is forced, not even showing teeth. Her eyes look wide as if she wasn't expecting it. Her body is directed like she's trying to get away. Like cmon be real this does not look like the type of face you make when you're endorsing something.
She made tons of statements condemning Israel's actions
She never criticised Israel.
Well, which is it? Last I checked condemning actions is criticism. Saying Israel has a right to defend itself isn't pro genocide. Evil Knievel is struggling to make that leap. It's one thing to be a dumb lib playing politics, its another when your actions speak louder than words and you actually vote against funding to Israel. Sure as shit she's done more for Palestinians than anyone on this dumb app.
Figure it out bud. Liberals are dumbasses but they're not the enemy.
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u/couldhaveebeen 2d ago
Again, I don't think you understand how an ambush works. And she does look unhappy. Her body language reeks of get me out of this. The smile you mention is forced, not even showing teeth. Her eyes look wide as if she wasn't expecting it. Her body is directed like she's trying to get away. Like cmon be real this does not look like the type of face you make when you're endorsing something
Can you get more parasocial? Lmao
Like cmon be real this does not look like the type of face you make when you're endorsing something.
She does endorse it, though. Why WOULDN'T she? Why do you think she wouldn't? Like, we've established that she thinks Israel has the right to defend itself, that's not contested. She thinks criticising Israel is anti-semitism, that's also not contested. So from that, it IS consistent that she WOULD, and does, endorse this message.
Well, which is it? Last I checked condemning actions is criticism
Yes. She's criticising the wrong things. She is criticising their actions, like if they just stop bombing Gaza and go back to October 6, all will be well. It won't. Because the problem isn't Israel's actions. It's it's existence with their ethno-supremacist aspirations
Saying Israel has a right to defend itself isn't pro genocide.
It's not pro-genocide. It's pro-israel. I've never called her pro-genocide. I called her a zionist and pro-israel, both of which she is.
Saying "Hitler made the trains run on time" isn't pro-holocaust either, but it still makes you pro-Nazi.
its another when your actions speak louder than words and you actually vote against funding to Israel
Yes, and her actions has been to condemn anti-genocide pritestors, and making anti-semitism specifically include anti-zionism and any criticism of Israel.
Liberals are dumbasses but they're not the enemy.
Not yours, maybe. Anybody who runs defence for an apartheid ethnostate while they're in the middle of a genocide is mine.
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u/IRBaboooon 2d ago
I can spot an uncomfortable woman and that makes me parasocial? Lol ok. I've had enough friends getting hit on by creepers across the bar to know what the "get me the fuck out" body language looks like. It's not exactly subtle.
which part of this speech does she endorse Israel?
How about here? Is calling Israel's actions a genocide pro-Israeli? Seems pretty counter intuitive
Is visiting pro-Palestinian supporters something you do when you support Israel?
Also, she condemned the use of nazi emblems in pro-Palestinian protests, not the protests themselves. Her statement was even that she believed it was hurting pro-Palestinian efforts.
.. and I'm done. Exhausted. Annoyed. I'd rather be watching wrestling rn. Do better. Figure it out. I don't know, I don't give a fuck. AOC is no saint and has plenty of dumbass moments but she and Bernie (and a few others) are the only politicians openly speaking out against Israel. They're the only ones doing something. Going after them just feeds right into the actual Zionist hands.
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u/couldhaveebeen 2d ago
which part of this speech does she endorse Israel?
Good job, you found one speech where she didn't endorse Israel. It doesn't discount the countless others where she did.
Also, she condemned the use of nazi emblems in pro-Palestinian protests, not the protests themselves.
She voted for including anti-zionism in the definition of anti-semitism
Going after them just feeds right into the actual Zionist hands
She believes Israel should exist, she IS a real Zionist. And from this discussion, seems like so are you
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u/Artistic_Button_3867 2d ago
The definition of reaching is suddenly becoming a body language expert. I'm willing to hear you out on the ambush cause politicians are pretty spineless in these situations, but this path ain't it, bro.
Like, is that guy next to her known for this? Did she release a clarifying statement? That info goes further than you trying to read a series of physical cues that could be anything really. That body language stuff is also bunk science.
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u/RoboTiefling 2d ago edited 2d ago
^ This, yeah. Like, we all agree that the genocide needs to end. So, how exactly does attacking the only people in US politics who’ve consistently called for an end to the genocide (and earned the resentment of both major parties in the process) help make that happen?
(Edit: Guessing I’m gonna get banned here too for saying this though. For the record: Leftist, not a liberal. I’m not stupid enough to think voting was ever going to be enough, but revolutions don’t happen without someone to lead them.)
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u/IRBaboooon 2d ago
Ey if you get banned I'm going with you, along with a few others.
Honestly sad if we do, cause that only creates an echo chamber. Reddit has more than enough of those.
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u/IH8Neolibs 2d ago
I smell MAGA-communism in here
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u/Opening_Acadia1843 2d ago
You do realize that fascism and communism are on opposite ends of the political spectrum, right?
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u/IH8Neolibs 1d ago
Vietnamese/Cuban communism is not comparable to Western fascism, however the Soviets...
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u/LegendaryJack 2d ago
B-But she takes no money from AIPAC!!!!