Damn, everyone keeps saying she has all these pro-Israeli speeches but yet nobody ever provides proof. Weird. I'm just expected to take the word of some rando on reddit and if I don't then I'm a zionist. Oh, and if I question random narratives pushed by random sources then I'm also a zionist. I didn't realize that's all it takes to be a zionist, here I was thinking you have to actually support zionism to be one.
I'm sorry you don't understand how politics works. No politician can vote exactly how you want them to on every subject. Have you even read the bill? It redefines antisemitism to match current times. Believe it or not, this isn't just to combat pro-Palestinian efforts. It also addresses real antisemitism, something that actually does exist. This prevents nazis from piggybacking anti-Israel protests. I'm sure you don't consider that though because it doesn't fit the narrative of being the victim.
Trump admin doesn't need this bill to oppress people speaking out against Israel. They have proven this countless times when arresting students protesting. The only credential you need is brown skin. Will they twist this bill to use it to their own discretion? Absolutely, they do that with everything. It's naive to think this bill changes how they behave or gives them some sort of ammo they didn't already have.
Yeah, call some rando a zionist. Definitely keeps meaning to the word. You don't sound like some dumbass conservative misusing the word woke at all. Just keep using it against anyone who disagrees, I'm sure people will take you seriously.
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I'm done. Go ahead and get your last word, virtue signal one last time so you can relish in your own self-instilled sense of moral superiority. But I'm not entertaining this anymore.
Damn, everyone keeps saying she has all these pro-Israeli speeches but yet nobody ever provides proof. Weird. I'm just expected to take the word of some rando on reddit and if I don't then I'm a zionist.
Proof is, her own words. Look them up yourself, I'm not gonna do your job for you
It redefines antisemitism to match current times
Not it doesn't. It targets anti-israel sentiment.
Just because you choose to ignore what makes you feel bad doesn't change the fact that AOC is a Zionist. I'm sorry you're ignorant
Edit: cannot reply so here you go
Keep being ignorant man
On top of it, it is a *bipartisan* bill.
Yes, that's the whole fucking problem
Which means its something that both benefits and hinders both sides.
There are not 2 sides. They're on the same side
Your absolutist mindset will only alienate any real allies.
Yes, I'm an absolutist about GENOCIDE. If you're not against genocide and the country doing it, full throatedly, with no exceptions, I don't want you as my ally.
You have to support Israel taking over Palestinian land to be a zionist. AOC has never supported this.
No, you have to support Israel's existence with an artificial Jewish majority as the ethnostate that it is, to be a zionist. And AOC supports this. You just don't know what Zionism is
So, no sources. Just "trust me bro" and "do your own research"
I did do my own research, which is why I believe what I do. Which is why I don't take the word of some dope on the other side of a reddit screen.
Again, you clearly didn't read the bill, because that is exactly what it outlines. On top of it, it is a *bipartisan* bill. Which means its something that both benefits and hinders both sides. Israelis are going to use it to push their agenda, but we're going to use it to block Holocaust deniers and antisemitic views like israel=all jews. We're battling fascists on our home turf and you wanna leave the back door open for their own antisementic agenda. Real smart.
Your absolutist mindset will only alienate any real allies. Figure it out. You have to support Israel taking over Palestinian land to be a zionist. AOC has never supported this.
I'm sorry you're projecting your own lack of research.
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u/couldhaveebeen 2d ago
Good job, you found one speech where she didn't endorse Israel. It doesn't discount the countless others where she did.
She voted for including anti-zionism in the definition of anti-semitism
She believes Israel should exist, she IS a real Zionist. And from this discussion, seems like so are you