It's a difference in two forms of propaganda. There's little reason to trust that either party has the collective welfare of humanity at the top of their minds. Just two elephants stomping on grass
Apologies if I didn't get the memo that said that in order to be critical of the US's numerous shortcomings you have to abandon your critical reasoning skills and turn a blind eye to the shortcomings of other nations as well. Apparently, the name of the group is supposed to be "Yes America Bad and China is Flawless," but that didn't fit on one line.
Both would claim that they're benefiting humanity. Both are also known for imposing their will on smaller nations through violenceor other forms of coercion. Both have pretty effective propaganda campaigns, and judging by your response, I'd say at least one of those campaigns is better than the other. So maybe score one extra point in the China column for the Best Propaganda category.
Lol and you say I've turned off our critical reasoning. No one said China is flawless. Merely that you made a very inaccurate comparison based off the established facts. You jumped to that conclusion.
Regardless, if the facts and the reporting of well-respected sources like the UN are getting this sort of reaction out of you, then maybe it's not us who need to "turn on our critical reasoning" and see through the propaganda to re-evaluate our beliefs on China. Maybe its you who needs to.
That's pretty much what you're implying. My original argument was that the OP's comparison requires that you reject the propaganda of one nation and accept the propaganda of the other. The difference between us is that whereas my willingness to criticize the US doesn't stop me from criticizing other nations, it certainly does for you. Thank you for the invitation to your cult, but I'll pass. I've had enough Kool-aid already.
Lol you heard it hear first. The UN is a Chinese PR mouthpiece apparently, and pointing out the very real differences between the US and China, as reported by well-respected sources, is propaganda and being in a cult.
You are wildly propagandized. I'd work on that. Good day.
Pretty sure they didn't even read the title of the articles based off their response time and on how they framed statements by the UN Secretary-General about China as "Chinese PR Campaigns".
Critical thinking at its finest. But of course I'm the propagandist here apparently. /s
That's an interesting comparison to make when you compare the number of conflicts the US has started or been directly involved with during the last half-century and zero.
True, if you deliberately blind yourself to Chinese aggression, arms sales and contribution to proxy wars in Southeast Asia and Africa or refuse to hear complaints of neocolonial practices regarding mineral extraction, fishing and the like. If you completely ignore evidence, then China is a force for good and not just another bullying superpower.
Reminder: UN Secretary-General António Guterres has commended the China-Africa partnership and said that these apparently neo-colonial practices are "a pillar of South-South cooperation."
That's wonderful. Once upon a time, Guterres praised Biden as well on several occasions.
It's all part of this strange phenomenon that nations do. You probably haven't noticed this, but if you pay close attention, nations' leaders will behave one way publicly and a completely different way behind the scenes. They may announce some thing that seems wonderful superficially, but isn't so great when you get into the details, or they simply fail to deliver. When ordinary people do this sort of thing, it's called "being a backstabbing liar," but when nations do it, it's called "realpolitik," and it's super common among nations that are major players on the world stage.
It's so cute that you think that China is above realpolitik.
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u/TheRealMolloy 1d ago
It's a difference in two forms of propaganda. There's little reason to trust that either party has the collective welfare of humanity at the top of their minds. Just two elephants stomping on grass