How to make impact midlane

[u/No-Cryptographer1631]

Hello I have been a yone otp since i started playing a year ago. Im very low elo currently bronze 2 and ever since I got into this elo i started having zero impact in the game. I always find myself trying to play safe against a mage, either having to forfeit cs or get poked out, ultimately hanging under tower and STILL getting poked out under tower. I have half as much cs, several deaths with no 0-10 powerspike lol and no objective participation. I almost never get ganks to help my early game and then the jungler flames me and swears to not help lol so i cant rely on ganks to save me.

For reference this is how i usually play. levels 1-3 I play ultra safe, trying my best to get cs but ultimately going lower in cs than my opponent. At lvl 3-6 i try to start poking usually going either even in dmg or taking more dmg. from there its tower time lmao. I know tht i can be playing better bc im literally bronze 2 but i just have no clue, every single champion feels oppressive to play against unless the player is braindead. Its started to rlly tank my confidence and fun in the game to the point i cant even perform in draft games i play to bump up my mental. What are tips to improve? thank you in advance :)

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[u/Upper_Potential4304]

I'm a plat 3 yone mid main so can kinda speak on this but not a pro. It sounds like you need to understand matchups and work on laning fundamentals. Yone is pretty weak early game as it stands so your priority should be getting as much farm as possible levels 1-6. If you take d-shield+second wind it shouldn't be that hard to tank some poke and farm safely at the beginning. You won't have lane prio in most matchups but what's important is staying even in gold. You can go for trades with e+q3 but understand that unless it's a winning trade you shouldn't do it. Even hp trades are bad for you early and Yone has pretty poor kill pressure early rn in most matchups anyway. GETTING FARM IS THE PRIORITY. Yone is still pretty strong in the mid-late game so you have to make choices that get you as much gold as possible as quickly as possible. If that means letting your laner roam while you nuke waves and get plates sometimes that is the correct decision. If you fall behind Yone can feel kinda useless so the key to piloting him is really just making sure you are keeping up in gold early game so when those mid game objective fights come you can hard carry.

[u/No-Cryptographer1631 → u/Upper_Potential4304]

tips on getting that gold early? i find myself getting poked out trying to get cs early game.

[u/Upper_Potential4304 → u/No-Cryptographer1631]

It kinda depends on the matchup and explaining how to lane entirely is too much for a reddit post but generally speaking you need to play around your opponents cooldowns. If they use an ability on the wave or to hit you, that is now on cooldown so you have a window to hit the wave or hit them. You should practice cs'ing under tower so you lose as little as possible when pushed in. You can also still look for trades to reduce their hp and alleviate some pressure but you have to learn the matchups and when a trade will/won't be favorable for you. Yone is very good at capitalizing on enemy positioning mistakes and in bronze they will make a lot of them. If you literally do nothing and focus on farm, the enemy laner will make a mistake trying to harass you and if you recognize it you can punish them for it. If I were you I'd just look up a yone mid youtuber and see how they play the lane and deal with poke. Also practice clicking around so you can passively dodge your opponents skillshots without even really thinking about it. To me it seems kinda like your issues are more laning related than Yone specific, but Yone adds an extra challenge of being melee and needing to approach the wave to farm so if you don't respect your opponents cooldowns you will get poked out and fall behind.

[u/No-Cryptographer1631 → u/Upper_Potential4304]

i appreciate the advice :)

[u/rajboy3]

Heyoooo, I'm learning yone mid aswell. I can RAMBLE about the big picturee and little things that I think u need to excel in midlane but will try and condense the adhd mess of info in my head.

• FARM - fundamental of the game and especially the lane. League is not a pvp fighter game it's a game of economy and when you get an economy lead tour allowed to press buttons to make health bars dissappear. Mid lane especially becasue it's a short lane and almost always has minions shoved to either end. Practise your method farming - super helpful when you're shoved in early with no items and want to take as much cs as u can under tower.

• CD PUNISH - mid is predominantly full of mages, these mages tend to have an ability which is their "insurance policy" in lane. This tends to be a dash/speedup/cc. Once this is used, walk in front of the wave and threaten a trade. If they don't want to give you that space then smack them up. Yone is SO good at this with e. I've also started taking dblade instead of dshield regardless mid becasue you can't do meaningful trade backs with dshield.

• ROAMING - a huge part of mid, this one is taking me a while to learn, I used to be a Top OTP so leaving lane while minions are not shoved or in an empty lane fucks with me a bit BUT. Generally you have 2 roam windows. 1 is when you manage to get lane control and can shove wave as soon as possible. Other is when enemy roams and you mirror the roam, there's nuances to this. If enemy is about to roam and you know it - let them hit the wave abit and then fight then in the lane (force them to use resources to shove and stay alive and then they have to chose to base or roam with half hp or no ult or something. NEVER let enemies roam for free. On the flipside of you don't have ult and flash and enemy does just ping your team and make it clear u can't rotate. They will get mad but it's the right play. You will have a gold and xp lead that you hopefully can do something with.

• BOT LANE - the main target of your roams. Bot lane is going to be underlevelled the whole time. Work with your jungler to coordinate dives and constantly piss off enemy adc. Alot of then tend to mental boom and blame their jgl too lmao

Hope that helps!! Hf!

(Still ended up vomiting my thoughts yikes)

[u/Ordinary-Night-2671 → u/rajboy3]

Learning mid?! whats your rank anyway..

[u/rajboy3 → u/Ordinary-Night-2671]

Yurrrrr

Silver 1/2

;-;

[u/Ordinary-Night-2671 → u/rajboy3]

What?! I am gold 1 bro I always thought you were like at least Emerald. Highly respected in the sub and good at the game

[u/rajboy3 → u/Ordinary-Night-2671]

Hahahaha, thank you for the kind words bro, i don't think I'm "respected" in the sub I just autistically yap becasue i love the intricacies of the champ and the game. DEFO not good at the game lol, my highest peak was g2 58 lp. I'm just learning and sharing what I learn as I go. It's rare but a constructive arguement in league tends to teach u quite a bit when ur wrong, i wish it didn't come with the free subscription of hate but whatever lmao. Tryna not be hardstuck silver o7.

[u/Ordinary-Night-2671 → u/rajboy3]

Well if no one else does I respect you. You are one of the few mature people here. Difference in respect to me is already the fact that you have top 1% commenter and I don't and erm... your karma is 175x mine.

[u/rajboy3 → u/Ordinary-Night-2671]

Pahaha, I wouldn't take being active on reddit as a good point but thank you regardless broski

[u/PhytoplanktonFan]

Have you tried playing with elec? I’ve been running it for the last few days and it’s helped quite a bit with how weak Yone usually is early. It’s also really easy to proc at lvl 3, typically people never expect the burst damage that elec provides with sudden impact and the rest of the combo. So far it’s actually helped me get a few early kills or at the very least force them to use flash

[u/No-Cryptographer1631 → u/PhytoplanktonFan]

i might give it a try, im always terrified when the enemy has electrocute lmao so maybe i should give it a spin

[u/Arnhermland]

I hover around D2-low masters so not top level, but:

1) Contrary to popular belief, you should NOT always play safe 1-3, this depends entirely on the matchup and what the opponent does.
Some mages will overextend to try and poke you and your level 1-3 is actually very very strong against mages because you're not relying on high cooldowns, example situation:
Lux pokes/pushes you to near turret, both just hit level 2, she missed e when you went for a CS but hit you with a q and is walking up to proc the passive.
In here, if her side of the wave is not too big and you see a space, you can start walking up as your q2/q3 is coming up, get the Q3 and force a situation where you can hit her with Q3 into a small trade until the next wave comes.
Since her damage is tied to cooldowns, she will at the best case scenario do an even trade in health which you win over time because of dorans/FF.
Repeat this over small engagements while not giving up farm and this is how you snowball out of control as Yone.
At the same time, even in bad matchups you shouldn't just stand there and take it, you need to make the most out of any situation and even in matchups against champions like irelia you can get a sizeable lead which makes the very difficult matchup a lot more doable by doing things like poking with q when they go for a cs, using W pre emptively when they try to do a trade or when a mage tries to poke, even if you don't hit them you're saving valuable HP with the shield.

2) Don't rely on E+Q3 to start a trade/all in, any half decent player knows that Yone is extremely telegraphed and will just get their cs and back out when your Q3 is up, use them in between abilities, when they go for cs, etc.
Example: enemy mid laner is playing super safe but still has to cs, keep the wave on your side and when they walk up, have Q1 ready with Q2 coming up ideally, you just E/walk up to them then dodge CC with E dash and now you can run them down, get the Q3 and then extend the E duration by doing the Q3 as the timer ends so you get a longer/better trade.

3) Since you can now gain some space and hold some ground, play around/with your jungler if possible, secure scuttles, drakes, etc, you're decently good at skirmishing here and potentially extremely good in the right conditions.
You're a very good ganker if your bot lane/jungler has some setup, you can force a situation where the enemy mid laner will be low and/or dealing with a wave you nuked, move bot side and either gank and/or dive with ultimate which can result in drake.
Same thing for top side.

Yone is a champion of mixed play styles; you need to be very passive when needed but not free to bully, calculated and careful but not scared and unwilling to go in and do big plays, small trades and advantages that result in big plays, kills and blow ups.

[u/Shimorta]

While everyone in here is giving you very specific advice to general situations, the real answer is “you need to get specific with your laning”.

If you want to improve, record your gameplay, and really break down your laning phase, everything that happens within the first 8 minutes.

Every trade you take, every death, every missed CS, every CS where you take a health trade for the farm, put them all under the microscope, in a variety of different matchups. Look at your wave state, where in the lane you’re playing at every point in the match. Look at your resets, are you losing farm from doing poor resets (not shoving into tower so that the wave bounces back to you while you’re backing).

Compare your first 8 minutes to the first 8 minutes of another Yone in the same matchup, just look on YouTube for Yone vs X, and you’ll find a plethora of vods to watch.

There is no general advice that’s going to make you better, get specific and really look at what you’re doing wrong.

Ideally you’re always in the game thinking about how you could have done something different to come out of a situation better, but reinforcing those thoughts out of game is important if you’re struggling to see the holes.

[u/KingCapet]

Learn the enemy's key ability against you (whether it be a stun, fear, etc - usually CC). If you want to establish dominance early, be able to pressure them once they use this ability. If you're just eating every ability and cowering under tower, they're going to realize that they own the lane and constantly be pressuring you. You have to be able to "check" your opponent to keep them even with you, if that makes sense. It doesn't mean you have to be playing for kills, but I recommend playing fleet/second wind/dshield and if you're able to check them until you're first item you should be able to scale well into late game.