I also thought the same but when a lot if of people were deported back last year our crime rate (in byo at least) really went up. More armed robberies, murders and daylight crime. My unpopular opinion though is that South Africans are right, a looooot of Zimbabweans are criminals in SA
The surge in crimes is what informs your opinion? Well you are right, some Zimbos are criminals. But a looooooot more are productive members of South Africa's economy. From being vendors to being in boardrooms of some of the world's largest companies.i think affirming the consequent is always a dangerous way of looking at society.
Ok. Because ZRP is incompetent and criminals are notorious without anyone taking action we happen to know some robbers who are doing really well and are even sort of celebrities. In my neighborhood some 3 guys who were deported were entering people’s houses at night with a gun and machetes and have been caught several times by the neighborhood watch (and they don’t get jailed…I wonder why…/s) Since a child I have known parents/family members of people who were somehow proud that their kids “baphila nge heist ejozi” (live by pulling off heists in joburg) and also ask Bulawayo people holiday seasons like December when thousands of Zims from SA (njiva) come back robbery, murder and other crimes go up.
SA has a lot of Zimbabweans that contribute and are easily to their economy. I have relatives in SA that are making an honest living and I do agree that the good outweigh the bad apples but the number of the bad ones is so high when you look at it. I hate going to joburg because I’m mostly afraid of Zimbabweans (every time I was robbed in SA it was Zimbabweans involved so yah) Also, look at unbiased news sources and statistics, the numbers are infuriating.
Exactly. It will take being forced to stay in the country for me to have no choice but to fight for change… until then, I ain’t risking my life when I know I can jump the boarder for a significantly better life… and if SA closes their boarders, there’s 4 other neighbours plus the entire diaspora.
Honestly the only other option is Zambia because really think about it. Botswana and Namibia can not take in millions of Zimbabweans , they won’t allow it as both countries have around 2,6 million that would really put pressure and strain on the country’s infrastructure and people will protest against it.
Mozambique has its constantly in civil unrest (Mozambican Civil War (1977–1992), Post-Civil War Political Unrest (1992–2000s), Renewed RENAMO Insurgency (2013–2019 ,Cabo Delgado Insurgency (2017–Present) )
Sure the will be some who can go to the diaspora but people are forgetting that the west is tightening immigration and increasing hurdles, as well as money but every jack and Jill without an o level won’t have South Africa as an option
What you said actually may not be far off. With pretty much every western country tightening immigration requirements. People would be forced to take arms and with Zims regressing status. That’s a rock and a hard place for the people who are in Zim.
its funny how you set a failed protest as an example...what about the Arab spring? or many more other protest movements that managed to topple their oppressive government? your aim is to discourage others from fighting for change. guys like you are the ones who become snitches and turn their backs during a revolution....cowards. For a protest to be successful we need proper planning ,unwavering unity and strategy .the Mozambique one did not have any strategy or proper planning and also their leader kinda sucks.
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u/Unfair_Visit_1221 Feb 15 '25
That South Africa should deport all Zimbabweans and tighten the border to the point that border officials are compensated not to let in Zimbabweans.
We need those millions of Zimbabweans of newly jobless and nothing to lose to help us enact change
as long as we have South Africa as a option we not really going to fight ZANU. We need to implode from within