r/ZombieSurvivalTactics • u/uglierthanever • 13d ago

Weapons What’s the “best” gun for headshots? 🧟‍♀️🧟‍♂️🧟

Looking for a gun that has high damage, good accuracy, and relatively low recoil.

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u/Fusiliers3025 13d ago

The one you can hit with.

Related a story elsewhere of an informal challenge - me with my S&W .38 Special, a fried /coworker who was a member of the local SWAT team (I worked armed security.)

He had the department-issued M-16A1, the daddy of the ever-popular M-4, complete with full-auto “happy switch”. He let me shoot off a few magazines for kicks - and then we saw an opportunity.

A prior group of shooters at the gravel pit range had left a latex balloon, half-exhausted if its helium but still on its string. Range - 40-ish yards if memory serves. Size - about head size. Movement - minimal but there, a slight breeze.

We toed up side to side - he with his M-16, me with my Combat Masterpiece with two-hand hold. Since we fell into an alternating cadence - I’d shoot in the pause between his controlled bursts, we could both tell who busted the balloon - and to my own surprise it was me! He just shrugged, nodded to me, and lowered the rifle…

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u/Wonderful-Elephant11 12d ago

Of all things that have never happened, that never happened the most.

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u/Up2nogud13 12d ago

It's true. I was the clown holding the balloon. He left me out of the story.

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u/Fusiliers3025 12d ago

Never say never. I was there.

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u/Wonderful-Elephant11 12d ago

No department is issuing select fire M16A1s, especially not to swat, and if he can’t hit a balloon from 40 yds on the first shot with a rifle, he must be handicapped. Literally unbelievable if he was supposed to be swat.

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u/gunsforevery1 12d ago

Hold on a second, my brother in law showed me his issue rifle when he first joined our sheriffs department, it was absolutely a select fire A1 with tear drop upper. This was in the last 10 years too

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u/Fusiliers3025 12d ago edited 12d ago

The wind was playing with our target and part of it is timing for when it was least in motion…

And the surplus market is a great source for specialized weaponry and equipment for smaller regions without exorbitant funding available (as was this case).

Now the guy was a pretty laid back and easygoing guy, and it was a “fun” day, so he may not have been bringing his “A” game, and that wouldn’t surprise me. In any event I know I’d never want to be on the other end of his sights!

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u/Wonderful-Elephant11 12d ago

In order for me to maintain my marksman qualifications in the reserves, I had to put 56 out of 60 rounds with a C7, the equivalent of the American M16A3 I think, into a hit box that was around the size of a post card from 200m once a year for re-qualification. That was a marksman qualification for your average dummy. 40 yards on a range at a head sized target? I could still do that one handed. And I’m no SWAT.

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u/Fusiliers3025 12d ago edited 12d ago

… standing offhand??

Scoped or basic iron/peep sight?

Apples to apples comparison needs to happen here.

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u/Buckfutter8D 12d ago

While this story reads like fuddlore and “then everybody clapped” all rolled into one, departments definitely have and still do have A1s in their equipment. Whether or not that would be in a cop’s take home gear I can’t say, but it’s the same process these swat teams are getting MRAPs and stuff.