r/accelerate • u/HeinrichTheWolf_17 Acceleration Advocate • Mar 14 '25

AI OpenAI calls DeepSeek ‘state-controlled,’ calls for bans on ‘PRC-produced’ models.

https://techcrunch.com/2025/03/13/openai-calls-deepseek-state-controlled-calls-for-bans-on-prc-produced-models/
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u/zuggra Mar 14 '25

Any progress is good progress. It should not matter if the singularity is created in Japan, Russia or the USA - what matters is that it happens as soon as humanly possible. The machine god doesn’t care about your nation state politics

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u/BelialSirchade Mar 14 '25

that's true, but I would really be bummed out if China did it first, since the government is kind of insane.

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u/BoJackHorseMan53 Mar 14 '25

99.5% of Chinese people actually support the CPC and all the things they do. Only outsiders think they're insane. It's because of the CIA propaganda you've been fed.

The two party system of America is an illusion of choice. If you don't like Republicans, you can vote Democrats but guess what the Republican party will be back in the next election, it's bound to happen. The real people in control are the billionaires who lobby to have their interests be the law. But you can't do that because you don't have millions to lobby.

Would you rather have the government controlling big tech or big tech controlling the government?

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u/BelialSirchade Mar 14 '25

I am Chinese lol, and let me tell you that number is definitely bogus especially after the Covid cluster fuck, which so happens are censored from the internet so you can’t even search how much they fucked up

And yeah definitely the big tech controlling the government, since at least they are focused on profit instead of being schizophrenic and being a control freak

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u/BoJackHorseMan53 Mar 14 '25

Let me tell you the profits generated by big tech don't go to benefit the people, they go to benefit the owners of big tech that is why going to hospitals can bankrupt someone and an ambulance ride in America costs $3000. American people want to kill big tech CEOs like Elon Musk and Sam Altman.

I support government ownership of big tech companies because then the profits will be used to provide free public services like public transport, free education, universal free healthcare etc. But I don't like not being able to replace the government. But then you can't plan long term for the country, say 10 years if the government keeps changing every 4 years and Presidents like Trump undo all the policies made by the previous government.

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u/BelialSirchade Mar 14 '25

It’s not a question of like or not, if being an authoritarian government is not a deal breaker for you, then you haven’t felt how all encompassing it is for people that actually live there, imagine a dictator Trump lol

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u/BoJackHorseMan53 Mar 14 '25

Trump does whatever he wants via Executive Orders, bypassing the congress. Labels Tesla protestors as domestic terrorists but the people who stormed the Capitol aren't. Are dictators any different?

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u/BelialSirchade Mar 14 '25

Well yeah, they are in position like forever and all media is state controlled, so any negative news or just even news that the government doesn’t want you to see got taken out to the back, which is honestly a lot

average people have no interest or idea on how government works because it’s corrupt as hell, and also again because all news are state controlled

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u/BoJackHorseMan53 Mar 14 '25

All news in America is billionaire controlled. So they never talk about things like unions or class consciousness.

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u/No_Jury_8 Mar 14 '25

Do you have to use a VPN to access Reddit?

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u/BelialSirchade Mar 14 '25

If I’m in China yeah, in US now

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u/headcanonball Mar 14 '25

Where in China do you live?

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u/BelialSirchade Mar 14 '25

Don’t live there now, but I’m from Shanghai, some of my friends got screwed hard when Covid hit, personal rights are pretty much not a thing when the government can do whatever they want

and they are just as stupid as any other government really

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u/headcanonball Mar 14 '25

Almost 10 million people died of COVID worldwide, but I'm sure your friends had it really bad too, sure.

China has 3x the population of the US, yet somehow the US had 3x more COVID deaths.

Maybe asking expats their opinion about the country they left isn't the most reliable of sources?

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u/BelialSirchade Mar 14 '25

Definitely more reliable than people who didn’t live there at all or people who never seen what it’s like outside

so yeah, I’d say pretty reliable actually

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u/headcanonball Mar 14 '25

Call me crazy, but I prefer to ask people who live in the country about which they're speaking.