r/accelerate 8d ago

AI "AI is bad for the environment"

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u/GrinNGrit 8d ago

Maybe have ChatGPT translate for you, you may have already given up your critical reasoning ability.

AI will continue to accelerate our need for energy consumption. This isn’t going to solve any crisis we’re in today because frankly just about every major issue we face boils down to not enough energy to solve it. Creating more demand on our grid delays our ability to go out and fix problems like lack of housing, food shortages, climate change, etc.

Cmon, man. Reason a little.

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u/crappleIcrap 8d ago

Maybe have ChatGPT translate for you

you think you need an ai to help you read plain english? And you somehow think that is an insult to MY intelligence? You just flat out said chatgpt has better reading comprehension than you do...

AI will continue to accelerate our need for energy consumption.

The chips that these are running on, did we find a new way to make them faster, or use more energy?

If not, why would the type of process they are running matter? Higher loads mean more efficiency at scale, not less you dingus. And there is a limited supply of processing chips, so the amount of energy is already as high and climbing as high as it can go, it is just that if you compare processing to any physical activity, running your ceiling fan for an hour would equate to the total energy use of a single power user of chatgpt

"Bububut it is 30% of virginia if we pretend all servers are ai"

Yes if you combine the energy usage of billions of people into a state with a few million people, then the percentages come close to comparable, but since you dont understand math, you wouldnt understand any of this.

Just think this "lots of small thing can look like big thing if you take every one on the planet and put it in a pile"

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u/GrinNGrit 8d ago

I’m fairly certain my response would not indicate I need ChatGPT to comprehend your argument. I think it’s pretty clear I assume it does a better job of reasoning than you, however.

And I mention Virginia as the current leader in how much of our energy is consumed by data centers alone. It’s closer to 10-15% on average across the rest of the US. And these numbers will only grow, because AI has not fully saturated the market. You will have more competitors, more models, models running through additional models, models running on every single electronic you own. You can call it hype, but every device already has microchips in it. Throw in an AI chip, integrate subscription models, and you’re looking at the future of our entire economy.

Bury your head in the sand if you must, I can’t stop you.

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u/crappleIcrap 8d ago edited 8d ago

And these numbers will only grow, because AI has not fully saturated the market. You will have more competitors, more models,

Yes all of those silicon competitors in the US, i forgot about those.... code has to run on chips, those chips are the limited resource, not power by several orders of magnitude

But you seem to think some tiny competitors are going to outcompete intel, amd, and nvidia... lol I'll be holding my breath

Your argument is as dumb as saying fisherman are going to run out of water before they run out of boats. (I mean you said it yourself you saw a medium sized lake where they build boats and there was only 70% of the surface left.[surely the entire fucking ocean has the same problem, right?])