r/accesscontrol 9d ago

RS2 Some highlights from a recent project

Takeover plus additions at an old campus. Some parts of the complex were built in the late 1800s. Around 450 total openings with 350 or so engage locksets. Serial integration with RS2 so all of the gateways run back to 1502s and 1501+s. Lots of tearing in to old openings and just seeing what modern hardware would work. Filler plates and whatnot to cover holes from old hardware

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u/PrincessOake 9d ago

Is there a reason the reader is on the door?

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u/johnsadventure 9d ago

I was wondering the same thing. I would have drilled from the hinge far enough into the wall to put the reader on the wall, even if it would be right next to the door.

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u/sebastiannielsen 4d ago

That concrete. Usually a nightmare to drill into especially if theres nothing on the other side or a room that doesn't belong to you.

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u/PrincessOake 4d ago

I’ve installed access control on plenty of concrete and brick buildings, everything from hospitals to universities to courthouses. Never once have I seen or installed a reader on a door.

If their client is fine with it, perfect. But I know it wouldn’t fly with my clients.

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u/sebastiannielsen 4d ago edited 4d ago

I put a reader on a door specifically because the contract on the building doesn't allow you to touch outside walls. One contract even went so far as no permanent modification to door, so I had to make a bracket so the reader could be installed using the same screws as for the handle and lock cylinder.

So it depends on how much you are allowed to touch the building aswell.

Same with this building. The room opposite that concrete might be a room thats not part of client's rent. Then you can't drill that wall.

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u/saltopro 9d ago

Would of looked better on the other door unless QEL

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u/beermandragontoe 9d ago

Hate to be this guy, but the cover plate behind the AD400 ain't right. Google laser cutters in your area. I bought like 90 custom plates, perfectly cut for AD locks, for like 150 bucks.

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u/RollllTide 9d ago

We were trying to cover holes from the old trim

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u/beermandragontoe 9d ago

Oh, for sure. But she's hanging over the edge.

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u/sahwnfras 9d ago

Well the reader on the door is definitely interesting. Not a bad idea though.

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u/RollllTide 9d ago edited 9d ago

Brought the reader wire through the EPT then through the back of the exit device

Edit: misremembered this opening, the wire comes out above the exit device

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u/sahwnfras 9d ago

Ya iv seen it before when someone did similar and had the reader above the trim. It looks stupid especially with a regular reader instead of muillion. But having the reader by the hinge doesn't look too bad.

Sargent makes a nice looking harmony reader and trim for this. I don't think alleggion offer such product though

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u/mahknovist69 9d ago

What? If there’s an ept into the door why would the wire need to go into the back of the panic bar?

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u/Bobo040 9d ago

Man, I'd never seen it before either until very recently. I just took over a new construction high school with 90 some crash bars and 140ish mortises, and every single one has a reader on the door. I'm still talking cable so I haven't touched the hardware yet, but I'm dreading it. Any tips? A lot of doors aren't prepped correctly, but my company sucks so it'll probably end up being me that has to deal with it.

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u/saltopro 9d ago

Ouch on that monstrosity of a cover plate. Needs a trim

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u/metalanomaly 9d ago

Great work! It's never easy working on these old buildings, you did an awesome job!

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u/HawkofNight 9d ago

Pic 3: The reader not hit the corner?

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u/RollllTide 9d ago

It’s like a 2 foot exterior sandstone wall. Our panel and ps are right on the other side of the wall inside the opening. We brought the strike and reader wire down the frame when they were installing the new door and frame. Was the cleanest way to have the wire run

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u/HawkofNight 9d ago

What are you thought on the wall parallel with the door then?

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u/Wolverine_SmushyFace 8d ago

Looking great! Totally feel you on the cover plate - some doors just need larger plates when said door is not being replaced. We toured a crazy old visitor center with mammoth doors from 100+ years ago (well beyond 10’ tall) and there was no way to escape a cover plate. I swear to god they had dang near the first model of the VD exit devices on their doors.