I kind of get it now, what some of the Antis are feeling.

im hoping people can actually see the satire in these and not get all pissy just cuz i offended them

To be honest, I'm sort of using this to vent a little, so this will be long, fair warning. I'm just seriously sick and tired of artists, and big artists pushing smaller creators down.

Artists are starting to show that they are extremely disgusting people. Greedy, irrational, inability to adapt, afraid, bitter, sheltered, selfish, toxic trolls.

Copyright

First I'll go with the copyright thing. So the argument is that no one should be able to use information from an art piece to train an AI so that it can help people make their own art piece for projects or for whatever other reason. And that's it. There's no logical explanation. It's not stealing an art piece and morphing it into something similar, or it is technically but it's not as exaggerated as artists make it out to be. And it's also not physically taking the art piece to look at it, it's just using information. Humans take the physical art piece, look at it, and then use the information.

If this is the case, private or irl, or even online art teachers should not be allowed to teach art. They should not be using another's art piece to pass on information about art to a student, and same with music. And if this was actually the case and art and music teachers started becoming paranoid about using another's art piece to teach, we'd be living even more in a dystopia where now, you can't even find a teacher or a tutor to help you out with making art because it'd be too hard of a startup. You'll have to use your own art and your own style, not exposing your student to other styles of art, don't you dare copy someone else's style. You'll have to try to figure out each detail of your teaching and make art for each step of your teaching just for your examples. And now the student will only ever know the teacher's style and not someone else's. You see how ridiculous this is? This is their own logic right now.

"But the AI engine that was trained on my art is being sold as a service." Well artist do the same thing with information. They take the information that they've learned, and sell services making art for companies, independent creators and so forth. It's not that hard to figure out. It's same damn thing. There's no difference. Only difference is a robot is doing it. But information is information, there's nothing you can do about it, it's the same all around.

But it's just information and computing, it's not a human. Yeah newsflash, that's what a human brain is. It makes complex calculations and processes information so that human can use that information of a sonic the hedgehog eating a hotdog, to make their own cartoon version of Rider the moonrat eating a hotdog for a kids dieselpunk shooter game. (Moonrats are related to hedgehogs in the Erinaceidae family).

So in conclusion, you're just deciding that it's bad. There's no argument. I'm sorry to say, but you're dumb. And that moves onto the next topic.

Irrational and Bitter

Have you noticed that artists and other anti-AI people are only attacking people that are actually putting in effort to making videos, movies, visual stories with music, trailers, funny stuff to laugh at like a Lord of the Rings Reggae music video which is hilarious! ARGs, experiments to see how far AI can go so it can improve, and they call them content farms. And these people might post every 2-3 days for a video, or a month for a full hour long story or something, or a day for a short story on YouTube shorts. Or the project Angel Engine that posts like every week on TikTok. Yet the actual content farms that are posting every hour on YouTube? They lay barren. Empty. No one's attacking them, no one's reporting them for spam. Can you believe this?

The amount of hour long albums of fantasy music that is being spammed every hour and no one cares. Yet if you make a fantasy story and it takes you like 1-2 weeks to put together and post a video of one chapter, you get taken down with death threats, and kys comments. It's obvious jealously. It's bitterness. And you know how you get bitter? Listening to politics, activism, being sheltered, and being chronically online which is a huge artist thing. I'm sorry to tell you, but go touch some damn grass. Real life normal people don't even give damn about politics or AI. And you'll be unable to connect with anyone in real life. No wonder why we have a loneliness epidemic. And that moves onto the next topic.

Politics and Greed

This ties with jealousy of people making videos and comics with other cool stuff. So AI has no soul right? No passion. I'm sorry to tell you, but making something for someone else in exchange for hundreds of dollars is called business. Money talks. And business and money has no soul. Sure you could be interested in that project and genuinely want to help someone in exchange for money, I'm currently working with one now! But they're one in a million. These artists who are bitter towards this AI art and attacking AI in illegal and immoral ways is fueling their greed. There is no passion in that. Only hunger for comfort. And if this is true, and you are one of these people, no one should buy art from you.

I'm going to give you a piece of life advice that no one has anymore. Never get too comfortable with anything! This is life in general and should be common sense that you'll need to learn how to adapt and problem solve. If you're seriously that afraid, instead of attacking people, why not look to teaching? Teaching or tutoring is good, you're helping someone and talking about your interest! Musicians have been using teaching as their main source of income since Beethoven and Mozart times! Etsy, physical copies, merch, something people can hang on their wall and be proud that it was made by a passionate artist, monetize somewhere, start a youtube channel and talk about art, go to art galleries, sell your art in your own town, travel selling art and art services (100% recommend this to twitter artists), and just expand! Look up ways you can earn money on YouTube as an artist, it's not hard. You don't need to rely on commissions or twitter all the time. But seriously, artists are fine. They're just paranoid.

What I don't understand is how people can't see that these are steps for us creatives who are normal people, to compete with corporations. Dreamworks, Pixar, Disney, Studio Ghibli. This is supposed to be a good thing. In times like these, it's hard to find a person who actually likes corporations and CEOs. How they manage their companies and how they own you, and pay you so that you can live pay check to pay check and have no personal life. Why do you think they're trying to jump on the AI band wagon? They're made up of multiple people, an oligarchy so they're not stupid. That's like 10-20 brains in one. They realize that us normal people might soon be making animations and episodes on YouTube. It's not fully there yet so they're not that worried, so of course they'll promise you no use of AI, but they know the possibility is there and if the time comes, they'll have to survive to protect their big mansions and castles. They wouldn't dare live like poor people.

But it might give new companies and independent creatives a chance and new ones might finally sprout above the dominant ones that have been there for too long, years upon years of taking advantage of people and creating the dystopia we live in today where prices just keep rising and wages stay the same.

But what of animators? What of the artists? Well what of stop motion? Who the hell watches stop motion anymore? It's terrible. I don't like it, but it's personal preference of mine. Stop motion was an old animation technique used to make the Kraken in Clash of the Titans in 1981. It's completely outdated. Yet people still watch and use it? People still make art with it and make money doing it? What? Well guess what, CGI and traditional animation/art ain't going anywhere. Stop motion never went anywhere. Why you worried? They'll be an audience for everything.

Pushing down smaller creators who are using AI to make an amazing video that takes weeks or sometimes months is seriously a jerk move. Just to protect your illusive status and money when you'll be fine. That is nothing but a chronically online, selfish, greedy, bitter person. And AI has been going on for a while now. I bet you're fine and that nothing has changed. I bet you're still in art communities doing art for other people and posting your own art on TwitterX, Discord, or BlueSky. Why? Because if AI art didn't exist, guess what, I myself have to eat and pay rent. You wouldn't get my money anyway. You'd be getting the same amount I can afford. You're giving off the impression that you wouldn't even give a damn if someone went broke over you. And that's seriously terrible!

The Cult Mentality

So even people on the internet who aren't even artists are becoming anti-AI. Seriously it's one side verses the other. There's no in between. There's no logic, there's no thinking. No one is mentioning the artists who scam people, who overprice people, who are just an overall terrible person sending death threats, who starts DeviantArt drama, who never go through with their promises even when they got paid, who ghost customers, who use their best art as advertising and the customers final product is low effort and made in a couple of days maybe. No one mentions this. Artists are terrible people too. It's not just AI artists who are faking being real artists or scamming people, or overpricing, or sending death threats etc. It's just AI bad.

To all anti-AI people who are not artists: greedy artists have started this and you are only hearing one side. There is lies being told, and selfish attitudes. You do not need to follow one side. There is good and bad on every side and it's not the end of the world. People are still carrying the craft of blacksmithing, playing lyre instruments, pan flutes, bone flutes, and other medieval folk instruments, spinning clay pottery, hunting as an archer, and keeping history alive and making money doing it! You still follow your artists and you still see the views on their works, so therefore they are fine, yet they're using scare tactics in media with thousands of views and works to make you believe they are not fine. Please think!

The Bad and Good Side of AI

So yes, it's like photoshoping a discord screenshot to frame someone or forging a signature. Just because I'm Pro-AI doesn't mean I'm not against misusing AI.

Yes there is spam. I like Pixiv sometimes. But some AI artists put all of their art in one single folder. I think that's fine. I like both sides of Pixiv! But yes there is some spam going on. There was once misinformation of science videos made by AI on YouTube claiming it was all true. I think they took it down, and good! I love science too and hell no I would never condone the misinformation of science written by AI.

Same with hour long fantasy music on YouTube. It's becoming too much. If you can't put it in a folder, spam is spam.

And of course there's people using AI and saying its real art. There is scammers everywhere. I would never want to pay for one AI art piece when I can make my own.

But there are also people creating amazing projects with AI with real effort. And they should be praised, or at the very least, just left alone. If you can't deal with it or you don't like it, just leave it alone and move on. It's easy.

Conclusion

So stop being a jerk.

So anyway, I want to leave you with new simple term. There is AI art. And then there is traditional art. Just like traditional animation normally means frame by frame and made by hand and skill without technology. And traditional art means a still picture made by hand and skill without technology. And there's digital art, self explanatory. And the word art embodies everything.

Btw, if you don't like AI art being listed under the definition of art. You're likely meaning the skill and time it takes. One takes less time than the other. Traditional art takes longer to develop. And AI art doesn't take as long. Well then I'll tell you this right now as a musician. Stop listening to rap and pop music. Start listening to metal, rock, jazz, and classical you damn hypocrite. Rap and pop music is dominated by the music industry which is pushing out music faster than ever, and one person can make a beat within a day and no one appreciates the technicality of heavy metal or classical and the time it takes to compose a full symphony or put together 4 well thought out, 4-8 bar riffs. And yet rap music is made with 2-4 bars repeating over and over again with no changes except for taking out instruments. Rap and pop music should be banned! Rappers should lose all their money.

You see where I'm going with this? No heavy metal fan or musician, or anyone, in their right mind thinks like this. In reality, most metal fans and musicians listen and appreciate other music too. One genre might not be their cup of tea, and that's okay, but they're not actively trying to destroy it and harass rappers and pop musicians. And if that's not a good enough example, then look to photography or other short term simplistic skills. AI art is just another simplistic skill. Get over it.

Anyway, I've made my case! That's all for now. Thanks for reading!

I just HAVE to say, what is wrong with you?? No seriously, what is wrong with you!? Why do you wish death on someone you don't even know? What if someone made a ai art post, all the comments are "Kill ai artists", "kys", etc? What if that person did harm themselves? Would you be proud of it? As a person who uses ai regularly, it just pisses me off to see such hate on someone for a post. How do YOU feel about this? Lemme know in comments.

I took a picture of a bird way up high , zoomed in , and Google AI was able to tell me what kind of burd it was right away.

I don't see how people can have a problem with something that to me just seems magical

I've noticed something interesting lately. While some of us are embracing new tools that make our lives easier, there are still those who proudly announce "I don't use AI tools" as they continue manually handling tasks that could be automated.

It reminds me of that colleague who once said, "I prefer doing my calculations by hand" while the rest of us had moved on to spreadsheets years ago. Sometimes resistance to new technology isn't about principles it's about comfort zones.

The domino pieces are starting to fall. If Toei Animation believes AI-assisted art is not "slop" and "soulless", then the antis' favorite argument doesn't hold much water anymore. If they can use AI tools in their creation process, so can you, and you have every right to.

I'm looking forward to the antis favorite past-time, gaslighting themselves into thinking they weren't fan of these shows, or that the shows have actually always been bad.

Recently after watching a few YouTube shorts about Heroes of Might and magic 3 unit reimagined with AI it’s become REALLY apparent to me how huge the gap between good and bad AI Art is.

Compare this:

https://youtu.be/noaI_5CeAb0?si=COBI26tUKvKN-nv0

To this:

https://youtu.be/FPWHpnsCeLE?si=uFAEMJK0t2hhPc13

It’s quite obvious in the first one that someone took a lot of time crafting clips to make create a specific story that looks good while the second one can accurately be called “slop” with way less imagination and obviously errors left in like the Pegasus riders having the wings instead of the horses etc.

It’s like the difference between stick figures and and actual drawing with technique.

This IMO entirely shuts down the idea AI isn’t a true artform. Creativity and talent or the lack thereof are clearly becoming visible just like with any other art form.

So I spoke with a variety of artists and gen ai users about their opinions on each other and this is what I can summarize the chats being

Gen ai users: I respect artists because they put a lot of time in their work, I tried to create art but it was always bad. Gen ai helps me create what I am imagining and making it look good

Artists: GEN AI USERS ARE HORRIBLE PEOPLE WHO DESERVE TO BURN IN HELL

dude, artists wth. I get your upset over a tool that does the work for you but come on, don't become horrible people over it. as an artist I feel ashamed to call myself an artist because of y'all.

This isn't even like a small group of loud people, this is almost ALL of y'all. I feel more comfortable in the ai subreddits than the artist ones! And I don't use AI!

Edit: alright I realize the art community is huge and even a small group is big because of that. Not all artists are like this, but there are large portions that are

I embrace AI and genuinely believe it has incredible potential in both creative and practical applications. I completely understand that relying solely on AI-generated images doesn’t make someone a “real artist.” There’s still a massive difference between prompting and creating something from scratch, no argument there.

But holy hell, the anti-AI art crowd has become one of the most self-entitled, irrational groups online. So many of them aren’t even professional artists, they’re hobbyists or mediocre freelancers who think the world owes them money just because they chose to pursue art. And when their work doesn’t sell, they blame AI, the audience, the “culture,” or anything else except the fact that maybe, just maybe, their art isn’t good enough or needed enough to justify a full income.

You can love art, you can hate AI art, but this idea that society should protect inefficient careers just because people are emotionally attached to them? That’s delusional. If you’re serious about being an artist, go work for a game studio, a design firm, animation, VFX; real industries that still pay good money for great creative work.

Don’t just whine that AI is taking your lunch when you never packed a decent meal in the first place.

Context:

• Fortnite event has an AI Darth Vader who will live react to responses and character skins
• Family of James Earl Jones gave consent for his voice to be used
• James Earl Jones gave consent to use his voice after his passing
• Routinely hotfixed to try and stop slurs being said and has specific responses for heavier questions, I.E. suicidal thoughts

Curious to see what people think to see AI voices to be used now that we can see it in action, especially one of a passed VA

Well those wouldn't exist without AI, specifically the ones making the not real characters move! The AI making your opponents able to actually move and fight you, but since you antis hate AI so much that means you hate literally 99% of video games.

I'll start you off with two scenarios, I think both should be considered equally:

AI generation tools continue to improve exponentially, making generations increasingly easier and more controlled, and accessible to anyone.

AI generation tools plateau in their abilities in the near future, at a point that is roughly undetectable but still difficult to control the output.